PUB call 17 jun 21
06-19-2021, 07:34 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
Originally Posted by threeighteen
You're a FOOL if you vote away an A plan instead of voting to improve it.
06-19-2021, 08:56 AM
#25
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 38
Enough
Originally Posted by BrianH
First off, I was glad to see the membership participation, listening in to the officers. After they turned on the participant list I could see just over 100 pilots on the first call, I saw a high of 87 on the second call.
It was interesting to hear the NC chairman walk back his earlier comments about who decides the negotiating goals, the path to those goals, and when the MEC would know what the NC was going to bargain.
Sadly, it is very hard to watch our union officers in transmit only mode by not allowing us to ask our questions directly, allowing for no follow up, and turning off comments. The last time that happened, we got contract '15, and a lot of our dues were spent.
I hope it is not "here we go again". But without the membership involvement, do they have any boundaries?
Final thought, I am tired of hearing about the wonderful surveys and how they are following the results. But ask yourself, did they ever ask us HOW WE would like retirement improved? NOPE. They do not want that question answered or they would not be able to go after PSPP.
Ok, and when is the new secondary line generator coming? You know the one from contract '15. Union leadership seems to have forgotten that as well, but then again, how many of them use the secondary system anyway?
Its time to decide, do you want to be a crewbus commando, or do you want to ensure favorable results by giving 1% of your time to your contract?
It was interesting to hear the NC chairman walk back his earlier comments about who decides the negotiating goals, the path to those goals, and when the MEC would know what the NC was going to bargain.
Sadly, it is very hard to watch our union officers in transmit only mode by not allowing us to ask our questions directly, allowing for no follow up, and turning off comments. The last time that happened, we got contract '15, and a lot of our dues were spent.
I hope it is not "here we go again". But without the membership involvement, do they have any boundaries?
Final thought, I am tired of hearing about the wonderful surveys and how they are following the results. But ask yourself, did they ever ask us HOW WE would like retirement improved? NOPE. They do not want that question answered or they would not be able to go after PSPP.
Ok, and when is the new secondary line generator coming? You know the one from contract '15. Union leadership seems to have forgotten that as well, but then again, how many of them use the secondary system anyway?
Its time to decide, do you want to be a crewbus commando, or do you want to ensure favorable results by giving 1% of your time to your contract?
Is this sour grapes because the MEC clearly didn't want you (twice) for MEC Chairman?
How do you preach unity, when all of your efforts are slinging mud at a body that appears to be functioning fairly well? You reference Crewbus commando....aren't you an APC commando?
It's getting old. You are management's wet dream.
06-19-2021, 02:22 PM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
Originally Posted by threeighteen
You're a FOOL if you vote away an A plan instead of voting to improve it.
06-19-2021, 02:26 PM
#29
Not a real airline pilot
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: Cargo > Pax
Posts: 365
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
How do they notify us of crew calls? This is the first that I've heard of one and would've liked to have listened in....
Go to ALPA website, sign up for email notification, specifically MEC updates & Positive Rate emails.
06-19-2021, 02:27 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,988
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
How do they notify us of crew calls? This is the first that I've heard of one and would've liked to have listened in....
But ALPA would need to know yours for it to work.
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