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Old 07-27-2021, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker View Post
But the MEC just worked it out with ALPA that sick buy back isn't subject to union dues.
Why should you pay dues on it? You don’t get charged dues if they contribute it to your DC. Why “ALPA tax” the guy who already saved and maxed out. Maybe you’re joking and I’m slow…probably the case.
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Old 07-27-2021, 06:51 PM
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I was told that you don’t pay union dues on anything you are paid for after your retirement date. So I would think that’s your vacation sell back, earned vacation for the next year, and sick bank payout. Not sure what else.
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DR K View Post
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but employees in good standing do not have any penalty points on their secret profile from using sick leave. As long as employees are dis-incentivized from using sick time by the threat of discipline or a company-mandated medical evaluation by a doctor of the company's choosing, pilots will be compelled to come to work sick if in fear of retribution.

OP's beef is with the company's power (enabled by the current contract), not employees who are trying to remain out of the CP's office or a hire-or-fire medical exam that will follow one forever if terminated. Don't think I noticed removing this clause as a priority in our openers brief so one ought to make peace with the current situation.

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Old 07-27-2021, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DR K View Post
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but employees in good standing do not have any penalty points on their secret profile from using sick leave. As long as employees are dis-incentivized from using sick time by the threat of discipline or a company-mandated medical evaluation by a doctor of the company's choosing, pilots will be compelled to come to work sick if in fear of retribution.

OP's beef is with the company's power (enabled by the current contract), not employees who are trying to remain out of the CP's office or a hire-or-fire medical exam that will follow one forever if terminated. Don't think I noticed removing this clause as a priority in our openers brief so one ought to make peace with the current situation.

Bottom line - don't hate the sniffles, hate the game. DR K
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DR K View Post
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but employees in good standing do not have any penalty points on their secret profile from using sick leave. As long as employees are dis-incentivized from using sick time by the threat of discipline or a company-mandated medical evaluation by a doctor of the company's choosing, pilots will be compelled to come to work sick if in fear of retribution.

OP's beef is with the company's power (enabled by the current contract), not employees who are trying to remain out of the CP's office or a hire-or-fire medical exam that will follow one forever if terminated. Don't think I noticed removing this clause as a priority in our openers brief so one ought to make peace with the current situation.

Bottom line - don't hate the sniffles, hate the game. DR K
This sounds more like an excuse for ones inability to make a choice. It seems some pilots have the same problem with fatigue calls. Always someone else’s fault for ones poor decisions.

At my previous major we had “unlimited” sick time yet the same problem. Pilots always making excuses for greed.

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Old 07-28-2021, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay View Post
This sounds more like an excuse for ones inability to make a choice. It seems our pilot group has the same problem with fatigue calls. Always someone else’s fault for ones poor decisions.

At my previous major we had “unlimited” sick time yet the same problem. Pilots always making excuses for greed.
Dude stop with your crap already. We are adults/professionals and should be treated as such. We get all these compliments on how well of a job we are doing yet requires a childish doctors note for calling in sick. And we get negative points based on the time of year we call in sick. “Holidays”
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:53 PM
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Dude stop with your crap already. We are adults/professionals and should be treated as such. We get all these compliments on how well of a job we are doing yet requires a childish doctors note for calling in sick. And we get negative points based on the time of year we call in sick. “Holidays”
We had the same point system at my previous major. Of course nobody knows what the point system is or how it’s tracked. It’s not that hard to provide a doctors note if asked. Go to CVS, Walgreens or a minute clinic. Not hard. Once again you are either fit to fly or not. Thats the authority the FAA gives you as an airman. Stop making lame excuses for not doing the correct thing.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay View Post
We had the same point system at my previous major. Of course nobody knows what the point system is or how it’s tracked. It’s not that hard to provide a doctors note if asked. Go to CVS, Walgreens or a minute clinic. Not hard. Once again you are either fit to fly or not. Thats the authority the FAA gives you as an airman. Stop making lame excuses for not doing the correct thing.
No excuses here, if I’m sick then I’m sick. However I shouldn’t have to provide a doctors note. If I’m out of sick time then don’t pay me period.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:08 PM
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What if one is just “sick and tired of….” Does that count as sick?
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:21 PM
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What if one is just “sick and tired of….” Does that count as sick?
That counts. I have called CVS and gotten a note for that. May have said I had ear congestion also. It cost all of 10 dollars and a few minutes. Even small communities have minute clinics that have the ability for a call in sick note for work. Done
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