Just a subtle reminder…
05-18-2022, 06:01 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by FDX1
A 5 year deal would have placed us into negotiation just prior to COVID hitting. Then it would have come to a halt, just as it did at every other airline.
Zero chance this goes longer than 7.5 years.
Zero chance this goes longer than 7.5 years.
05-19-2022, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
UPS currently tops out at $351.16 (bumps to $361.69 in September) for captains. $249 for FOs currently with a bump to $256 in September.
We at Brown would appreciate it if you pushed that bar up substantially more. Good luck!
We at Brown would appreciate it if you pushed that bar up substantially more. Good luck!
I’m not here to slip and slide my vacation, I’m here to make Benjamins…we reap what we sow…and we sowed athe lowest payrate in the industry. But, we all fly AVA and DFT during negotiations, so, who cares about pay rates?!!
05-19-2022, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
...UA has set THE bar as far as I’m concerned...
Originally Posted by magic rat
I’m not here to slip and slide my vacation, I’m here to make Benjamins…
Originally Posted by magic rat
.we reap what we sow…and we sowed athe lowest payrate in the industry.
05-19-2022, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
When we signed our contract, AA previously had the highest pay rates. This is what our looked like compared to theirs.
I'm not sure where you got that chart, but our WB pay rate in 2015 wasn't close to $325/hour. We didn't make that rate until November, 2019. The contract comparison page from the MEC doesn't agree with your assertion either.
05-22-2022, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
I saw the UA CA TA pay rates:
777 Year 5: 382.32 Year 12: 403.45
757 Year 5: 313.97 Year 12: 331.37
767 Year 5: 316.23 Year 12: 336.48
And I also am hearing 8%/5%/5%
777 Year 5: 382.32 Year 12: 403.45
757 Year 5: 313.97 Year 12: 331.37
767 Year 5: 316.23 Year 12: 336.48
And I also am hearing 8%/5%/5%
Those rates are in 2024 correct? Not DOS?
05-22-2022, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
I'm not sure where you got that chart, but our WB pay rate in 2015 wasn't close to $325/hour. We didn't make that rate until November, 2019. The contract comparison page from the MEC doesn't agree with your assertion either.
It looks like those charts compared the last year of Americans contract (2019) to our contract at the same date. Just a guess
05-22-2022, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
Don’t hold your breath… but we have a GREAT vacation policy they say!!! Yawn…UA has set THE bar as far as I’m concerned.
I’m not here to slip and slide my vacation, I’m here to make Benjamins…we reap what we sow…and we sowed athe lowest payrate in the industry. But, we all fly AVA and DFT during negotiations, so, who cares about pay rates?!!
I’m not here to slip and slide my vacation, I’m here to make Benjamins…we reap what we sow…and we sowed athe lowest payrate in the industry. But, we all fly AVA and DFT during negotiations, so, who cares about pay rates?!!
You better go read the UA board. They are very underwhelmed after 3.5 years of negotiations it appears. You are also quoting pay rates that don’t become active for over another year from United. Remember pay rates are one piece of a bigger picture when it comes to total pay. As for our pilot group being self serving draft *****s you are correct. How is our union ever going to achieve anything when we have a bunch of self serving hypocrites as pilots.
05-22-2022, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
How is UAL's vacation policy better?
Its not, I was being sarcastic. We have the lowest pay rates, but brag about our vacation policy. We seem to hang our hats on it. My view was, i get enough time off flying my line, I’d rather be THE highest paid airline pilots in the industry…our vacation policy is great, I don’t want to change it, but my eye is on another prize. IMO. I was saying that they set the bar for pay rates.
