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07-02-2022, 03:05 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Jamo
Imagine this, you hit the ‘send’ button and everything auto generates. Not sure why some are so against progress. I get not everything is perfect 100% of the time. Pretty sure they will keep a backup method handy for that .0001% of the time it may malfunction. There’s a reason EVERY other major airline went this way years ago.
07-02-2022, 04:04 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
OK, I saw the announcement for the MD fleet, but what does this mean for the rest of us? What information does it give us?
I know I can get my fuel usage numbers, but honestly, how many people track that information? I sure don't. I have not looked at it in a couple of years.
I know I can get my fuel usage numbers, but honestly, how many people track that information? I sure don't. I have not looked at it in a couple of years.
Originally Posted by Anthrax
A report card? after every flight? and you think this is progress? or r u being sarcastic?
Originally Posted by threeighteen
Lol have you actually worked with that garbage? It’s awful. There’s a reason why UA/AA/DL are always sitting at the end of the runway waiting for numbers and we’re not.
07-02-2022, 04:55 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I don't know what information FedEx's system will give us. I am not on the MD. At previous company it told you your rate of rotation at takeoff, what your speed, tail clearance and deck angle at takeoff were. Then on landing, how fast or slow compared to Vref you were at landing, deck angle and tail clearance.
I'm serious. It gives feedback about your takeoffs and landings that you probably wouldn't get otherwise. Why are you against this?
Weird, at Delta Air Lines (3-words folks), they're not allowed to push until they have their numbers. You shouldn't compare FedEx's on-time push or departures with the rest of the industry. You're going to be embarrassed. FedEx's Next Gen APS system is fast and safer than the previous system although they need to fix the center runway issue.
I'm serious. It gives feedback about your takeoffs and landings that you probably wouldn't get otherwise. Why are you against this?
Weird, at Delta Air Lines (3-words folks), they're not allowed to push until they have their numbers. You shouldn't compare FedEx's on-time push or departures with the rest of the industry. You're going to be embarrassed. FedEx's Next Gen APS system is fast and safer than the previous system although they need to fix the center runway issue.
actually was on a Delta 757 the other day outta Jax in in the jump seat we pushed and waited for numbers for quite some time.. missed our slot to Atlanta waiting.. they were not happy. I was just glad for the ride. But I came from an airline with Acars numbers and it was a pain…got used to pulling into the run up pads…
But it was 18 years ago so I’m sure things had to have gotten better…
07-02-2022, 05:05 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by MD11FLYER
actually was on a Delta 757 the other day outta Jax in in the jump seat we pushed and waited for numbers for quite some time.. missed our slot to Atlanta waiting.. they were not happy. I was just glad for the ride. But I came from an airline with Acars numbers and it was a pain…got used to pulling into the run up pads…
But it was 18 years ago so I’m sure things had to have gotten better…
But it was 18 years ago so I’m sure things had to have gotten better…
Sounds like you were at UseLess Airways
07-03-2022, 05:23 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by Corned Beef
ACARs performance would be cooler than this.
07-03-2022, 10:12 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by Corned Beef
ACARs performance would be cooler than this.
07-04-2022, 04:43 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by Linepilot63
I’ve used AeroData and Sabre both via ACARS at other operators and much preferred it. No manually inputting MEL/CDL’s, typing the METAR in…, any of that either.
07-04-2022, 05:26 AM
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MyFlight
Originally Posted by Linepilot63
I’ve used AeroData and Sabre both via ACARS at other operators and much preferred it. No manually inputting MEL/CDL’s, typing the METAR in…, any of that either.
Same experience for me at previous airline with Aerodata. Just needed runways, pax and bags as inputs. Took maybe 30 seconds max to get a response back with numbers. Our backup was an app on our EFB where we also had to input fuel. Gave us numbers even faster. Tertiary was calling the dispatcher and getting numbers over the phone or texted via ACARS.
Our NGAPS is an improvement over APS but the procedure needs improvement.
07-04-2022, 12:36 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
Same experience for me at previous airline with Aerodata. Just needed runways, pax and bags as inputs. Took maybe 30 seconds max to get a response back with numbers. Our backup was an app on our EFB where we also had to input fuel. Gave us numbers even faster. Tertiary was calling the dispatcher and getting numbers over the phone or texted via ACARS.
Our NGAPS is an improvement over APS but the procedure needs improvement.
Our NGAPS is an improvement over APS but the procedure needs improvement.
Bingo…….it’ll be a long procedure with a lot of briefing to ensure everything is perfect to a T, but hopefully we get the NGAPS figured out soon.
07-08-2022, 10:45 AM
#30
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We’ve been using ACARS data on the 76 for what, over a year now? It works just fine and if you need to make a quick change, you can send it thru ACARS or do it thru the EFB APS. I’ve never had to wait more than a few seconds for the perf to come thru on ACARS.
