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Nightflyer 01-10-2023 10:39 AM

Read the latest NC update
 
Retirement TA'd. Would love to see the details.

StarClipper 01-10-2023 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3568356)
Retirement TA'd. Would love to see the details.

Two more sections to go! #ABSOLUTELY NO CONCESSIONS

opt0712 01-10-2023 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3568356)
Retirement TA'd. Would love to see the details.

If the NC TA'd it, then they must think we'll like it based on our openers. Have to think this news just got the attention of the many with 5 years or less left.

USMCFDX 01-10-2023 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3568404)
If the NC TA'd it, then they must think we'll like it based on our openers. Have to think this news just got the attention of the many with 5 years or less left.

Or they got the "pancake plan" that PM loves. We will not know until it is sent to us.

WearyEyed 01-10-2023 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 3568410)
Or they got the "pancake plan" that PM loves. We will not know until it is sent to us.

I’m choosing to withhold my excitement. Did we get pancakes? Max IRS limits for the pension? No change in A with 17% B? Cash over cap? Are we anywhere near the 50% replacement ratio the union has been shooting for or did we only get the A bumped up to $140,000?

JunkyardDog 01-10-2023 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 3568410)
Or they got the "pancake plan" that PM loves. We will not know until it is sent to us.

Pancake plan, or any variation of it, equals NO!
Regardless of what else is in the TA.

WearyEyed 01-10-2023 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by JunkyardDog (Post 3568444)
Pancake plan, or any variation of it, equals NO!
Regardless of what else is in the TA.

Reading this site and jetflyers makes me optimistic that we won’t pass a lousy contract because there’s a lot of vocal opposition to any concessions and more specifically there’s lots of people claiming to be no votes if scope isn’t improved, vacation is touched, mandatory makeup up to BLG before draft, changing the way we conflict bid, duration beyond 4 years, not fixing our atrocious training bids and wait times, and many other rumored items.

I don’t think previous sections that have been TA’d will be re-opened to address complaints unless we vote down the TA when it’s presented. Hopefully we won’t need to, but it sure as h*ll seems that the NC accepted concessions based on union communications.

You have two great opportunities tonight and tomorrow to show up and speak to the union leadership to make your voice heard.

HOLD THE LINE! NO CONCESSIONS! INDUSTRY LEADING IN ALL AREAS!

CloudSailor 01-10-2023 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by JunkyardDog (Post 3568444)
Pancake plan, or any variation of it, equals NO!
Regardless of what else is in the TA.

Right there with you Dog.

StarClipper 01-10-2023 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by JunkyardDog (Post 3568444)
Pancake plan, or any variation of it, equals NO!
Regardless of what else is in the TA.

Any type of pancake plan in my view is a CONCESSION and will be met with a BIG NO VOTE

Stan446 01-10-2023 02:21 PM

Vacation better not change. Thats a NO.


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