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Old 03-19-2023, 07:20 AM
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We should always want to fly all the freight. That said, there should be a larger premium for anything I did not bid. Also, if I protect min days off, then there should be a process to drop other flying to recapture those days off where possible.
Agree wrt protect min days off, that should mean no extensions WITHOUT a huge penalty if I accept it. During covid, I had to bid trips that had an extra 3 days off at the end so I wouldn’t miss a planned event with the family in case I got extended. It’s simple, protect min
days off means I have a XX maximum days available for hauling freight IAW my awarded line.
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Old 03-19-2023, 07:49 AM
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Wait, why should we always want to fly all the freight? I would say, we should all be able to bid our lines without having to plan to have 84 hours free after scheduled debrief. And if we, meaning you, want to always fly all the freight, then you get larger premium.
I think you mis understood his post. I am sure the first sentence refers to scope.
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Old 03-19-2023, 09:53 AM
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Yep the first sentence is about scope. We want to fly all the freight.

The rest is about professional treatment. We should demand professional treatment all the time. And protecting Min days off is something we need to work on. And when the company needs to revise us, it comes with a premium. And I agree that premium needs to be increased.
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Old 03-19-2023, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianH View Post
Yep the first sentence is about scope. We want to fly all the freight.

The rest is about professional treatment. We should demand professional treatment all the time. And protecting Min days off is something we need to work on. And when the company needs to revise us, it comes with a premium. And I agree that premium needs to be increased.
Sorry, I completely misunderstood. My bad.
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Old 03-28-2023, 04:26 PM
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Stay where you are and prepare for the coming storm. The more seniority numbers under you right now the better. Delta pilots will be in concession talks soon enough. All these 27 year old new hires at DL/UA/AA didn’t live in this industry through 9/11. Most weren’t here during the ‘08 meltdown.
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Stay where you are and prepare for the coming storm. The more seniority numbers under you right now the better. Delta pilots will be in concession talks soon enough. All these 27 year old new hires at DL/UA/AA didn’t live in this industry through 9/11. Most weren’t here during the ‘08 meltdown.
I’ll probably get myself another infraction for this, but I’m really tired of this argument. Do you mean the coming storm of the retiring baby boom generation and their 7 trillion in wealth? Do you mean the cost of oil going sub $70 barrel? Do you mean the storm of United ordering hundreds of wide bodies? The pax carriers are going to be fine. Inflation is a serious problem. It’s being exacerbated by this amazing labor shortage. I’d argue that Delta and others will be negotiating an even better package to keep the current talent that they have. I’m not a betting man, but I’ll put real money on this one.

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Old 03-28-2023, 09:49 PM
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Here is the labor force participation rate. I will let everyone draw their own conclusions.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
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Note that long-run changes in labor force participation may reflect secular economic trends that are unrelated to the overall health of the economy. For instance, demographic changes such as the aging of population can lead to a secular increase of exits from the labor force, shrinking the labor force and decreasing the labor force participation rate.

We’re losing the largest generation of humans to have ever existed. They’re going to spend their money in retirement. They’ll demand goods and services but will participate in the work force that provides those services in ever shrinking numbers. Raising interest rates isn’t going to fix this inflationary problem.
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Old 03-29-2023, 12:34 AM
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Note that long-run changes in labor force participation may reflect secular economic trends that are unrelated to the overall health of the economy. For instance, demographic changes such as the aging of population can lead to a secular increase of exits from the labor force, shrinking the labor force and decreasing the labor force participation rate.

We’re losing the largest generation of humans to have ever existed. They’re going to spend their money in retirement. They’ll demand goods and services but will participate in the work force that provides those services in ever shrinking numbers. Raising interest rates isn’t going to fix this inflationary problem.
Yup the paradigm is shifting and forcing layoffs by raising interest rates ain't gonna fix it.
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Originally Posted by ACMIguy View Post
Stay where you are and prepare for the coming storm. The more seniority numbers under you right now the better. Delta pilots will be in concession talks soon enough. All these 27 year old new hires at DL/UA/AA didn’t live in this industry through 9/11. Most weren’t here during the ‘08 meltdown.
There is still an unprecedented amount of retirements coming up. I try not to be such a huge pessimist. Maybe you can try it?
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