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PurpleToolBox 06-03-2023 06:04 AM

MEC Don’t Send Us a Dud
 
DO NOT SEND US A TA THAT DOESN’T MEET OUR OBJECTIVES!

Do not repeat Contract 2015 all over again!!

bitwiser 06-03-2023 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3645703)
DO NOT SEND US A TA THAT DOESN’T MEET OUR OBJECTIVES!

Do not repeat Contract 2015 all over again!!

Agreed. And yes, PM, we are in the same industry as Delta.

SpoilerAlert 06-03-2023 07:03 AM

But we can't have better scope cuz the company still needs to be able to do whatever it is they're gonna do.....

magic rat 06-03-2023 07:42 AM

Y’all like 14% DOS? Y’all like getting rid of R24? Y’all like getting rid of ability to clear you calendar? If these and other rumors are true….I know how I’m voting.

CloudSailor 06-03-2023 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3645703)
DO NOT SEND US A TA THAT DOESN’T MEET OUR OBJECTIVES!

Do not repeat Contract 2015 all over again!!

Yes sir agreed!

Please MEC, if the TA cannot sell itself on its own merit and will require a sales job ŕ la 2015, do NOT send it out to a vote.

CloudSailor 06-03-2023 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 3645750)
Y’all like 14% DOS? Y’all like getting rid of R24? Y’all like getting rid of ability to clear you calendar? If these and other rumors are true….I know how I’m voting.

Hearing similar things. What an unfortunate waste of a strike vote, for a TA that not only does not meet most of the opener objectives, but also has serious QOL givebacks at increased productivity from us. You know, the kind of givebacks not aimed at the guys headed out the door soon. Aimed at those of us who want to stay here for a while. No thanks. I can wait status quo while we negotiate a proper deal for those headed out the door soon, and the rest of us unconscionable pilots who want to IMPROVE our QOL for the many more years we have to fly here. NOT giving away any more QOL. Are you fcking kidding?!?! We are already on the backside of the QOL curve.

Coffeepilot1 06-03-2023 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 3645750)
Y’all like 14% DOS? Y’all like getting rid of R24? Y’all like getting rid of ability to clear you calendar? If these and other rumors are true….I know how I’m voting.

I’ve heard 20 DOS and 14 DOS. Agreed some early leaks are concerning.

StarClipper 06-03-2023 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by cloudsailor (Post 3645766)
hearing similar things. What an unfortunate waste of a strike vote, for a ta that not only does not meet most of the opener objectives, but also has serious qol givebacks at increased productivity from us. You know, the kind of givebacks not aimed at the guys headed out the door soon. Aimed at those of us who want to stay here for a while. No thanks. I can wait status quo while we negotiate a proper deal for those headed out the door soon, and the rest of us unconscionable pilots who want to improve our qol for the many more years we have to fly here. Not giving away any more qol. Are you fcking kidding?!?! We are already on the backside of the qol curve.

#no concessions #delta plus

opt0712 06-03-2023 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3645766)
Hearing similar things. What an unfortunate waste of a strike vote, for a TA that not only does not meet most of the opener objectives, but also has serious QOL givebacks at increased productivity from us. You know, the kind of givebacks not aimed at the guys headed out the door soon. Aimed at those of us who want to stay here for a while. No thanks. I can wait status quo while we negotiate a proper deal for those headed out the door soon, and the rest of us unconscionable pilots who want to IMPROVE our QOL for the many more years we have to fly here. NOT giving away any more QOL. Are you fcking kidding?!?! We are already on the backside of the QOL curve.

How about we wait till we see it to get worked up. Seriously, people go out and enjoy your pools this summer.

opt0712 06-03-2023 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by SpoilerAlert (Post 3645730)
But we can't have better scope cuz the company still needs to be able to do whatever it is they're gonna do.....

You realize Scope went through 9 passes before being TA'd right? So our NC obviously fought over something before being TA'd. Guess we will see.


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