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This week will start with emails, messages, union excuses etc …. Welcome to Atlas.
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Originally Posted by LuckyvsGood
(Post 3678873)
This week will start with emails, messages, union excuses etc …. Welcome to Atlas.
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At least at Atlas our EXCO fought tooth and nail for five years. Ultimately, we were limited by the confines of the RLA and binding arbitration. But we shot for the stars. I fully support 2750 and and thank them for getting us what they were able to. Even now, our stewards are very proactive at contract compliance. Very often they’ll contact the pilot to tell them a violation took place and they should grieve it.
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Originally Posted by ACMIguy
(Post 3679307)
At least at Atlas our EXCO fought tooth and nail for five years. Ultimately, we were limited by the confines of the RLA and binding arbitration. But we shot for the stars. I fully support 2750 and and thank them for getting us what they were able to. Even now, our stewards are very proactive at contract compliance. Very often they’ll contact the pilot to tell them a violation took place and they should grieve it.
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Originally Posted by ACMIguy
(Post 3679307)
At least at Atlas our EXCO fought tooth and nail for five years. Ultimately, we were limited by the confines of the RLA and binding arbitration. But we shot for the stars. I fully support 2750 and and thank them for getting us what they were able to. Even now, our stewards are very proactive at contract compliance. Very often they’ll contact the pilot to tell them a violation took place and they should grieve it.
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
(Post 3678924)
Atlas has a union that isn’t afraid to go toe-to-toe.
Welcome to Atlas Lite.
Originally Posted by ACMIguy
(Post 3679307)
At least at Atlas our EXCO fought tooth and nail for five years. Ultimately, we were limited by the confines of the RLA and binding arbitration. But we shot for the stars. I fully support 2750 and and thank them for getting us what they were able to. Even now, our stewards are very proactive at contract compliance. Very often they’ll contact the pilot to tell them a violation took place and they should grieve it.
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
(Post 3681078)
You do know that binding arbitration is voluntary?
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Originally Posted by zerozero
(Post 3681167)
Oh? Please explain. I'm all ears.
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Originally Posted by zerozero
(Post 3681167)
Oh? Please explain. I'm all ears.
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
(Post 3681181)
Both parties have to agree to binding arbitration which was the best path forward for the atlas pilots.
After winning every lawsuit he filed on the issue, John Dietrich forced arbitration on their unions which nearly every pilot in the group was opposed to. They had voted over 99% in favor of a strike (my vote included) and wanted to strike if need be, but that only happens in Section 6. Somewhere along the line so many Southern pilots left that they could no longer staff the airline, so John Dietrich proposed to just put their pilots on Atlas's current contract but the arbitration clause would stand in court. After being forced to give a combined list in another law suit (the contract gave no timeframe for that) the final negotiating started. Any improvement with an economic improvement for the pilots in it was rejected knowing the arbitration judge would ultimately rule in Dietrich's favor. At the end of the negotiating period in the contract, something like 200 items went to the judge for arbitration - an unprecedented number. How's that for negotiating in good faith? The judge ruled almost all of it in the company's favor and for the pay rates added like $2 an hour to the company's proposed rates when the union was probably $50 an hour apart. That's what happened at Atlas. John Dietrich literally won so big that pilots were still leaving Atlas left and right. He was forced to renegotiate again in a few months and make enough concessions to their union to prevent the Captains from all leaving. Make ZERO mistake about it that arbitration was 100% forced upon their group. They wanted Section 6 and were forced into their merger language which ended in arbitration. |
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