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WilsonFDX 08-11-2023 07:14 AM

Wilson Says - TonyTicker Lost Pay $$$
 
FedEx pilots are not happy. Today is Day 12 that we would've been under the new CBA. NO voters - what is the plan? other than to burn ALPA down. The TonyTicker of Lost Pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until TA 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

Watch the TonyTicker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

YellowBanana 08-11-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonFDX (Post 3681001)
FedEx pilots are not happy. Today is Day 12 that we would've been under the new CBA. NO voters - what is the plan? other than to burn ALPA down. The TonyTicker of Lost Pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until TA 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

Watch the TonyTicker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

I might vote no again just to see more of these salty posts. 😂😂😂 Sorry the majority spoke and you can’t stop whining about it.

StarClipper 08-11-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonFDX (Post 3681001)
FedEx pilots are not happy. Today is Day 12 that we would've been under the new CBA. NO voters - what is the plan? other than to burn ALPA down. The TonyTicker of Lost Pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until TA 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

Watch the TonyTicker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

Blame the union for trying to sell us a POS, then pushing time value of money theory. It’s ok, with have time and we will work on a better TA

Sunny1 08-11-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonFDX (Post 3681001)
FedEx pilots are not happy. Today is Day 12 that we would've been under the new CBA. NO voters - what is the plan? other than to burn ALPA down. The TonyTicker of Lost Pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until TA 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

Watch the TonyTicker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

Nice first post - the only intent is trying to stir the pot.

Im wondering if it’s NoWork or Stan.

Time will tell … Tick … Tock

JackStraw 08-11-2023 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunny1 (Post 3681073)
Nice first post - the only intent is trying to stir the pot.

Im wondering if it’s NoWork or Stan.

Time will tell … Tick … Tock

It’s a disgruntled Western Global guy upset that he didn’t get a reprieve from Raj.

Merle Haggard 08-11-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonfdx (Post 3681001)
fedex pilots are not happy. Today is day 12 that we would've been under the new cba. No voters - what is the plan? Other than to burn alpa down. The tonyticker of lost pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until ta 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

watch the tonyticker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

garbage post

Now that you've got it figured out, how about a ticker showing the compounding losses over 30 or 40 years that would've resulted from signing a contract that put us behind ad ifinitum.

Temocil27 08-11-2023 10:07 AM

Hey Stan! Welcome back

kc10/c130 08-11-2023 11:05 AM

If we would of taken care of this in ANY of the 3 previous contracts since I have been here we wouldn't find ourselves here. Thankfully we have FINALLY stepped up to the plate. Now let's get together as a group and stand up for what we have worked so hard for.

Rum Runner 08-11-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WilsonFDX (Post 3681001)
FedEx pilots are not happy. Today is Day 12 that we would've been under the new CBA. NO voters - what is the plan? other than to burn ALPA down. The TonyTicker of Lost Pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until TA 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

Watch the TonyTicker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

Actually, I think Tony just won about an hour ago. Blocks 5 and 7 will be facing a recall vote, but the motion for a recall vote for the Block 2 Rep, failed.

MEMFO4Ever 08-11-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rum Runner (Post 3681144)
Actually, I think Tony just won about an hour ago. Blocks 5 and 7 will be facing a recall vote, but the motion for a recall vote for the Block 2 Rep, failed.

So the guy that did not properly represent his block will not face recall? Makes sense. :rolleyes:

At least the 130 minus survivorship is nice. Well, until they f&ck that up too. But CoC...

threeighteen 08-11-2023 02:38 PM

Oh look, another bitter post from someone who tried to pull up the ladder behind them and throw 90% of the pilot group under the bus. This should help us get another TA at least a month sooner. Keep it up.

Anthrax 08-11-2023 02:45 PM

FDX pilots are mad? maybe 30% are. 13% are out fishing. 57% are a-ok.

Ps, your tears make me stronger. more, please.

Iwa Washi 08-11-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kc10/c130 (Post 3681134)
If we would of taken care of this in ANY of the 3 previous contracts since I have been here we wouldn't find ourselves here. Thankfully we have FINALLY stepped up to the plate. Now let's get together as a group and stand up for what we have worked so hard for.

.....This!

Tritanic 08-12-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JustInFacts (Post 3681415)
I bet you wouldn't tell one of those crusty pilots this to their face.

Nice way to pit half of the crew force against each other.

I would say it and do, albeit a little more subtly. But everyone knows what this is about.

And the crew force isn’t split in half. Maybe 40/60 right now. The awesome news is that it’s gonna swing a lot closer to 30/70 over the next year if not sooner.

Tuck 08-12-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rum Runner (Post 3681144)
Actually, I think Tony just won about an hour ago. Blocks 5 and 7 will be facing a recall vote, but the motion for a recall vote for the Block 2 Rep, failed.

following Tony cracks me up. Most if not all who follow him have never met him or seen him attempt to lead. There is a reason no one on the MEC has EVER agreed with him - that’s the the THREE MECs he was on. Oh and he hasn’t touched controls in like 2 years and is unlikely to ever fly again yet HE is peoples leader? Give me a break - he has forgotten what flying even is and cares about one thing….or one person rather.

Nordhavn 08-12-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3681695)
following Tony cracks me up. Most if not all who follow him have never met him or seen him attempt to lead. There is a reason no one on the MEC has EVER agreed with him - that’s the the THREE MECs he was on. Oh and he hasn’t touched controls in like 2 years and is unlikely to ever fly again yet HE is peoples leader? Give me a break - he has forgotten what flying even is and cares about one thing….or one person rather.

I will admit that I don't know him but he is smart enough to not endorse a piece of sh1t TA. That goes a long way in the non, single issue voting camp.

threeighteen 08-12-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3681695)
following Tony cracks me up. Most if not all who follow him have never met him or seen him attempt to lead. There is a reason no one on the MEC has EVER agreed with him - that’s the the THREE MECs he was on. Oh and he hasn’t touched controls in like 2 years and is unlikely to ever fly again yet HE is peoples leader? Give me a break - he has forgotten what flying even is and cares about one thing….or one person rather.

It may crack you up, but he's the only one in LEC 22 that didn't get his name sent to the ballot for recall yesterday. He's the only one on the MEC that didn't shill for the company. He's basically working as a rep for free right now since he's on LTD.

Maybe the shills on the current/former MECs were the problem just like it is today. Judging by how awful our previous CBAs and this TA have been, that seems more likely.

ChipD 08-13-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3681805)
It may crack you up, but he's the only one in LEC 22 that didn't get his name sent to the ballot for recall yesterday. He's the only one on the MEC that didn't shill for the company. He's basically working as a rep for free right now since he's on LTD.

Maybe the shills on the current/former MECs were the problem just like it is today. Judging by how awful our previous CBAs and this TA have been, that seems more likely.

Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner!

BTW Tuck, I don't know you, but I've known Tony for 40+ years. You are way off base and way out of line.

JustInFacts 08-13-2023 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3681805)
He's basically working as a rep for free right now since he's on LTD.

You might want to look at some of his previous resolutions about FPL and LTD. Some of the reps that are on the block for recall were also on LTD working for free along with some SME’s.

PurpleToolBox 08-13-2023 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3681695)
following Tony cracks me up. Most if not all who follow him have never met him or seen him attempt to lead. There is a reason no one on the MEC has EVER agreed with him - that’s the the THREE MECs he was on. Oh and he hasn’t touched controls in like 2 years and is unlikely to ever fly again yet HE is peoples leader? Give me a break - he has forgotten what flying even is and cares about one thing….or one person rather.

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Originally Posted by JustInFacts (Post 3681927)
You might want to look at some of his previous resolutions about FPL and LTD. Some of the reps that are on the block for recall were also on LTD working for free along with some SME’s.

Which Blocks are also on LTD?

frozenboxhauler 08-13-2023 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 3682300)
Which Blocks are also on LTD?

There are two. You can check out their calendars.

Tuck 08-14-2023 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChipD (Post 3681915)
Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner!

BTW Tuck, I don't know you, but I've known Tony for 40+ years. You are way off base and way out of line.

On which part? That he hasn't touched controls in a long time an may never again? That he almost never has anyone agree with him on the 3 MECs he's been on?

threeighteen 08-14-2023 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3682829)
On which part? That he hasn't touched controls in a long time an may never again? That he almost never has anyone agree with him on the 3 MECs he's been on?

Are you including the most recent MEC where reps are getting sent to recall votes because they voted opposite the interest of the pilot group?

BrianH 08-15-2023 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3682829)
On which part? That he hasn't touched controls in a long time an may never again? That he almost never has anyone agree with him on the 3 MECs he's been on?


I'll take that bet. One bottle, payable upon the block-in of his next flight, or his retirement.


Meet me in OPS to "shake on it" in public.


Also I have served with TonyC MEC and MEC members agreed with him way more times than not. The work he has done for the pilots pails in comparison to your complaining.

Pilotguy21 08-16-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WilsonFDX (Post 3681001)
FedEx pilots are not happy. Today is Day 12 that we would've been under the new CBA. NO voters - what is the plan? other than to burn ALPA down. The TonyTicker of Lost Pay $$$ is ticking up every second of every day until TA 2.0 is reached....tick....tock

Watch the TonyTicker live at this link https://www.fdxjetflyers.com/ticker/tonyticker.html

Tony ticker needs to start at -$1450 for Captains and -$950 for FOs since that is what we are earning (at least) each month we wait on next TA.

FDX1 08-17-2023 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3682934)
I'll take that bet. One bottle, payable upon the block-in of his next flight, or his retirement.


Meet me in OPS to "shake on it" in public.


Also I have served with TonyC MEC and MEC members agreed with him way more times than not. The work he has done for the pilots pails in comparison to your complaining.

There’s a BIG SURPRISE! You agree with Tony 100% of the time. Why don’t you provide your voting record while you were on the MEC. You voted “no” on nearly every MOU or LOA that came before you. They passed resoundingly and were supported by the pilots. You have always been an antagonist and wouldn’t recognize a good deal if it came up and bit you in the a%#!

We get it, your unity guy and in favor of golden ATM machines and Unicorns. Good luck with that.

BrianH 08-17-2023 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FDX1 (Post 3683872)
There’s a BIG SURPRISE! You agree with Tony 100% of the time. Why don’t you provide your voting record while you were on the MEC. You voted “no” on nearly every MOU or LOA that came before you. They passed resoundingly and were supported by the pilots. You have always been an antagonist and wouldn’t recognize a good deal if it came up and bit you in the a%#!

We get it, your unity guy and in favor of golden ATM machines and Unicorns. Good luck with that.

I love Unicorns. I also know they are magical and fictional.

I also know I recorded the vote many times so the membership could look back and see how we both voted.

Voting against an MOU which the NC Chairman could not tell us the value and/or costs for both the company and the union members is the professional position.

We needed more information to understand the risks and rewards. How many times did that bite the pilots?


Lack of information is one of the foundational reasons TA 1.0 failed. All of the givebacks is another, and the Hard sell didn't help.

FDX1 08-17-2023 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3683902)
I love Unicorns. I also know they are magical and fictional.

I also know I recorded the vote many times so the membership could look back and see how we both voted.

Voting against an MOU which the NC Chairman could not tell us the value and/or costs for both the company and the union members is the professional position.

We needed more information to understand the risks and rewards. How many times did that bite the pilots?


Lack of information is one of the foundational reasons TA 1.0 failed. All of the givebacks is another, and the Hard sell didn't help.

So how many votes was it that you voted "No" and how many were "yes" and what did you vote no on? You are avoiding the question. The point is simple, you have an unrealistic agenda and you are unable to find solutions that provide answers, only false hope and unicorns being fed by golden ATM machines. You are out of touch with reality. Answer the question.

Anthrax 08-17-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FDX1 (Post 3683925)
So how many votes was it that you voted "No" and how many were "yes" and what did you vote no on? You are avoiding the question. The point is simple, you have an unrealistic agenda and you are unable to find solutions that provide answers, only false hope and unicorns being fed by golden ATM machines. You are out of touch with reality. Answer the question.

someone isn’t breathing well. slow down the ole heart rate, gramps. inhale, two, three, four, hold, two, three, four, exhale, two, three, four, hold, two, three, four, and repeat until the tears stop flowing.

namaste


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