Originally Posted by FeverDream (Post 3923368)

Honestly, the FedEx management team's message is pretty unifying. 1) I think it is good that ALPA's pay proposal held fast ($1 below) after they insulted us with the paltry 40%-below-industry proposal. 2) And yes...certain sections that were "complete" from TA 1 were re-opened...guess what?--TA1 failed overwhelmingly and that's why. Get over the divorce. Things change and priorities and resolve change when you've dragged your feet for four years. You've unilaterally manipulated the SAM to cut pay by 16% through BLG reduction (despite us already being at the bottom of the pay scale) . We are receiving perdiem rates from a 2015 contract that did not anticipate the inflation that has occurred. Just two for starters. 3) And yes you need to add billions. How much have you already saved by not negotiating in good faith? Good faith? Really?

If it were me? Ask to be released for being at an impasse. Today. Start circulating to customers that FedEx pilots are asking to be released. Here's where the SPSC must pursue a PR strategy to put pressure on the company. Otherwise, all this delay is just bonus for the company. Not sure how the NMB process works, but if the flowchart (link below) here is correct, we have a few avenues to that outcome. We're certainly not getting any help from the normal process which is a piggy bank for the company. As much as they feign frustration, they are certainly receiving bonuses for the 6-month icing.

https://nmb.gov/NMB_Application/wp-c...-flowchart.pdf

Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 3923550)

So much for not negotiating in public?

Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3923551)

ALPA needs to put out a strike authorization vote...

Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3923479)

Current UPS/IPA Flat Dollar Amount is $4650/YOS for Captains, capped at 30YOS...$139.5k/year.

I don't see any way we go from $4650/YOS up to $6600+/YOS...that'd be a 42% increase in defined benefit pension before addressing any other "contract pillar" area like increasing the 12% DC, cash-over cap, hourly rates, pay rigs, or scheduling.

I'd MUCH rather see an increase both the DB and DC than push that many chips in a single direction.

Good luck to us both...

Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3923494)

Tell the Simping Minority then, because they are gearing up for recalls.

Originally Posted by Rum Runner (Post 3923204)

Till 2026. It's off the rails now. As if it wasn't before.

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 3923614)

Curious, how did you find out so early?

Originally Posted by NoHaz (Post 3923677)

If the company is costing based on the 700 already gone does that mean they plan on extending the backpay and retirement improvement to those 700?