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remlap 03-14-2006 04:58 AM

Fedex Sim Instructor
 
Does any have any gouge on where I can find information on Fedex and Simulator Instructor positions.

I am a line pilot at DAL, but it looks like I may need a new position in the near future.

I have one recommendation at FedEx, but apparently that isn't enough to get an interview. I have heard that this may be a reasonable way to get through the door.

Any information on salary, weblinks, contacts, etc. would be appreciated.

TonyC 03-14-2006 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by remlap

Does any have any gouge on where I can find information on Fedex and Simulator Instructor positions.

I am a line pilot at DAL, but it looks like I may need a new position in the near future.

I have one recommendation at FedEx, but apparently that isn't enough to get an interview. I have heard that this may be a reasonable way to get through the door.

Any information on salary, weblinks, contacts, etc. would be appreciated.

If you're serious about working for FedEx Express as a pilot, I would not recommend the instructor route. A "Professional Instructor" will owe FedEx THREE years before he can go to the line. A "handler" will owe 12 months. Both get an interview. I recommend a trip to your nearest Employment Office where you can apply for ANY permanent position (full-time or part-time) with FedEx Express (only Express, not Ground or Freight or Custom Critical or Corporate - - it only applies to Express) and put in a good 12 months, then use the internal application process to get the interview. Meanwhile, figure out a way to maintain "recency of experience" with some kind of flying on the side.



Good luck.




- The truth only hurts if it should -

jzuniga 03-14-2006 12:01 PM

although, as a sim instructor you would make more coin$$, and you are now guaranteed a pilot slot (after the three yr. commitment) as the application process is the same as for a line pilot position. the box thrower way would be your best bet assuming you passed your interview after your first yr.
good luck
Z

TonyC 03-14-2006 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by jzuniga

although, as a sim instructor you would make more coin$$, ...

Short term, perhaps. A Professional Instructor gets paid more than a courier. However, if you compare 3 years as a professional and one year on the line with one year as a courier and 3 on the line, the advantage is dramatic.




Originally Posted by jzuniga

... and you are now guaranteed a pilot slot (after the three yr. commitment) as the application process is the same as for a line pilot position. the box thrower way would be your best bet assuming you passed your interview after your first yr.
good luck
Z

And luck is about the best way to describe it, too. Do you take your chances on a "sure thing" that costs you three years, or do you take the 12-month shortcut for a "almost sure thing"? It depends on your personal circumstances, your thirst for reward, and your stomach for risk.


I know guys that were hired as professionals, are now training guys on the MD-11 that were hired after them, and they'll still be waiting another 2 years to get on the bottom of the seniority list. While they're grateful to have a job, there's a certain amount of bitterness that they deal with. Nobody's fault, it's just the way it is. Just something to consider.


Two years seniority can make a world of difference.






- The truth only hurts if it should -

aspiring_pilot 03-14-2006 07:31 PM

if you're flyin for fedex you're set; count your blessings

FR8Hauler 03-15-2006 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by remlap
Does any have any gouge on where I can find information on Fedex and Simulator Instructor positions.

I am a line pilot at DAL, but it looks like I may need a new position in the near future.

I have one recommendation at FedEx, but apparently that isn't enough to get an interview. I have heard that this may be a reasonable way to get through the door.

Any information on salary, weblinks, contacts, etc. would be appreciated.

It depends on your age too. If 60 is around the corner the sim instructor route might work out if you need the coin for the long term. You are pretty well hosed on getting an interview until you are actually furloughed from Delta or give up your Senority number. FedEx took it in the shorts years ago when American called a bunch of furloughed guys back and they left FedEx. Now they will not consider you until the bond is cut.

sailor 03-15-2006 05:21 PM

Does FedEx have line pilot sim instructors also? If yes, how many (compared to the 'professional' instructors)?

Ranger 03-15-2006 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by sailor
Does FedEx have line pilot sim instructors also? If yes, how many (compared to the 'professional' instructors)?

Yes, we do. They're referred to as flex instructors. Among other things. The name is a bit of a misnomer (sp). The concept is that they hire a line pilot into the training center as a sim/classroom instructor. Then once every three months the pilot would "flex" back to the line, i.e., fly a normal line for a month. But it rarely happens. They hang out in their instructor jobs and rarely fly the line for anything more than an afternoon out and back.

cmcdonel 09-17-2011 04:13 AM

TonyC is right in many cases but what he doesnt bring up is that if you sit on the waiting list for an interview for two or three years and then get hired on....or never get hired on then the Professional Instructor route is not so bad. Thats exactly what I did 17 years ago. I spent three years as a Pro and then went to the line. I learned a lot about the company and made a lot of contacts along the way. It wasnt a waisted three years. By the way.....one of the new Pros told me the other day that its only a two year contract now.

HercDriver130 09-17-2011 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by remlap (Post 22368)
Does any have any gouge on where I can find information on Fedex and Simulator Instructor positions.

I am a line pilot at DAL, but it looks like I may need a new position in the near future.

I have one recommendation at FedEx, but apparently that isn't enough to get an interview. I have heard that this may be a reasonable way to get through the door.

Any information on salary, weblinks, contacts, etc. would be appreciated.

I guess the other question is why you think you need a job other than your DAL position.

Sluggo_63 09-17-2011 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 1055667)
I guess the other question is why you think you need a job other than your DAL position.

I guess the last question is why are you resurrecting a post from 5 1/2 years ago...

FDXLAG 09-17-2011 04:45 AM

beat me too it.

Unknown Rider 09-17-2011 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 1055667)
I guess the other question is why you think you need a job other than your DAL position.

Delete delete.

Overnitefr8 09-17-2011 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 1055669)
I guess the last question is why are you resurrecting a post from 5 1/2 years ago...

This must be a record for longest time between posts.

JetJocF14 09-17-2011 05:32 AM

I helped my friend get hired as professional sim instructor just a couple of weeks ago. We were both instrutors in the Navy a long time ago. His career was 20 years with DAL, achieving 757/67 Captain. He left Delta before they went into bankruptcy. He then spent the next few years playing Mr. mom.

Wanted to get back into the flying game and I was trying to get him hired to the line. During those days when Jack Lewis (x-Eastern) was chief pilot he would not entertain the idea of hiring Delta or American pilots, because we were burned real bad back in 1995. During that time frame, when A/A and DAL furloughed we hired a bunch of them and put them in the right seat of the Maddog. However as soon as the recall started nearly everone of them bolted back to the mother ship.

My friend finally got hired by Jade cargo as a RFO on a 747-400out of Schezen. Long commute. He just got hired a few weeks ago and will instruct on the MD-11. His contract is only 2 years, and I think is pay is around 80K. Don't quote my on that. Still better than shuffling boxex in the rain, but TMHO.

Pakagecheck 09-17-2011 07:42 AM

JJ14,
Did your buddy get a guarantee to the line? Are they doing that again or is it another interview down the road?
Thanks

slaveship 09-17-2011 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 22722)
Yes, we do. They're referred to as flex instructors. Among other things. The name is a bit of a misnomer (sp). The concept is that they hire a line pilot into the training center as a sim/classroom instructor. Then once every three months the pilot would "flex" back to the line, i.e., fly a normal line for a month. But it rarely happens. They hang out in their instructor jobs and rarely fly the line for anything more than an afternoon out and back.

Actually, 80-90% of Capt Instructors are DUAL QUAL'd as LCA Flex's. In the MD-11, and I think more than that in the 777. Not sure about the 757 or 727.

JetJocF14 09-17-2011 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Pakagecheck (Post 1055715)
JJ14,
Did your buddy get a guarantee to the line? Are they doing that again or is it another interview down the road?
Thanks

I think he'll have to interview.

DallasGatr 09-17-2011 08:23 PM

"During that time frame, when A/A and DAL furloughed we hired a bunch of them and put them in the right seat of the Maddog. However as soon as the recall started nearly everone of them bolted back to the mother ship."

Actually most of us stayed at FedEx. (At least the lucky ones!)

Whale Pilot 09-18-2011 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by remlap (Post 22368)
Does any have any gouge on where I can find information on Fedex and Simulator Instructor positions.

I am a line pilot at DAL, but it looks like I may need a new position in the near future.

I have one recommendation at FedEx, but apparently that isn't enough to get an interview. I have heard that this may be a reasonable way to get through the door.

Any information on salary, weblinks, contacts, etc. would be appreciated.


RM,

Here is the scoop. There are three positions as "Pro Instructors" at FedEx.

1. Systems Instructor (Classroom)
2. Procedures Instructor (FTD)
3. Maneuvers Instructor (Sim)

You would be interviewed based on your experience and qualifications.

Doesn't sound like you are interested in a "line position" If so, apply for the pilot job. If the window is closed, wait a weeks, it will open again. We occasionally put out postings for "Pro Instructors". The contract is for two years and the salary is based on which position you are placed.

Here was the posting from the latest FCIF


We are once again posting externally for Professional Instructors in the
Flight Training Department. Many of you have contacted us recently to
inquire on behalf of friends and colleagues, so this FCIF is published to
again ask for your help in publicizing these openings.

A bachelor's degree is still preferred, but there is also a
provision to give credit for degree equivalency based on previous
instructor experience in formal training programs approved under Part 61,
135, 141 and 142.

We have openings for three levels of instructors, including both full time
and part time positions:

- Ground School Instructor
- Procedures Instructor
- Maneuvers Instructor

Previous aircraft and instructor experience will determine the instructor
position offered. Prior air carrier experience is considered a plus. A
medical certificate is not required. A more complete list of requirements
is included in the online posting.

If you know qualified individuals interested in joining the FedEx team,
please provide the following information to them. Candidates may apply
for any or all positions. There are opportunities in each aircraft
training program. Applications must be made online and submitted by
midnight CST Friday, August 12, 2011.

Have your candidate copy and paste the following URL and complete the
steps below:

https://fedexsalary.hire.com/joblist.html

. Go to above URL: (cut and paste if required.)
. Select "Show all Jobs"
. Select "Flight and Air Operations"
. Select and Complete "Jobs" of interest.

Waldorf 03-28-2016 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Readback;2098402]2011?

The external posting is out. If you qualify, apply.
The freeze is two years after hiring.
FedEx no longer hires three levels of Pro Instructors. One pay level.



Um, Thanks for the update to a post thats from 2011...........................

cwjflyer20 03-30-2016 10:59 AM

ANY info on salary? any idea on how much the tech pilot (pros, not line pilots) get paid??

https://fedexsalary.hire.com/joblist.html This link is inop.

Flynhog 04-04-2016 06:49 PM

$7,000 per month for pro instructors at FDX, work 19 days in 4 week bid and 23 days in 5 week bid. Bonus averages about 2-3k per year.


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flybluebus 05-21-2016 02:31 PM

Can anyone advise what the interview process is like for a pro instructor?

Thank you

The Walrus 05-21-2016 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Flynhog (Post 2103256)
$7,000 per month for pro instructors at FDX, work 19 days in 4 week bid and 23 days in 5 week bid. Bonus averages about 2-3k per year.


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Is the bonus tied to anything in particular?

Flynhog 05-21-2016 02:40 PM

You will teach a lesson on something such as V1 cut. HR type interview, typical "what if" questions, usually with two Pro managers. No sim or written test, but your resume needs experience as sim instructor, LCA/PCA, military Instructor. Bonus is tied to your performance/eval by your pro manager.


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PurpleBoiler 05-25-2016 01:48 PM

the bonus is the Fedex annual Coporate bonus tied to profits, paid out at the end of the fiscal year.

azoomietheist 05-26-2016 08:07 AM

Don't expect to get an interview for the line if that is your ultimate goal.

Skyone 09-29-2016 01:36 PM

Is there any new gouge on sim instructor positions? Pay, what equipment, commuting, etc? Not looking for a flying position later, too old.

FDX28 09-30-2016 07:14 AM

PM sent.


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Flyingyayy 09-30-2016 07:41 AM

Interested as well


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