Cog screen prep
 

I imagine they want to screen everyone's FEX-W to save themselves hassle down the road.
From what I've heard they have had a few guys do what they were warned against doing in other threads, ie saying they had a FEX-W before they actually did. This was done by saying they had one, when in fact they hadn't taken the exam yet. (This was done on the initial Profile page where you verify you have all the minimum requirements they want. Clicking the button before you have a current FEW-W is tantamount to lying in FedEx's eyes. It is verified by date one applies and date on FEX-W. )
Rumor has it there have been some that have gotten the boot for doing this; some even got as far as doing the paperwork after getting conditional offer and this was discovered and they were sent packing!
Moral of the story. Don't say you have things if you don't! Sounds simple but apparently a few folks don't do it.

The story about this dude getting canned after interview, conditional hire, and jubilation about a FedEx job sounds true. Bummer to have this happen. Heard it was a good dude. Resist the urge to click "I have the FE written done" before it is actually done is the moral of the story.

And yet, some of us have taken it 4 times or more.
So when you say you have it, hopefully they don't ding you for retaking it every time it expires :-(

There were two places to do this....the first was the initial profile page that allows you to gain access to the actual application website and the second opportunity was on the actual application itself. Which one are people getting questioned about? I would imagine it would be the second as that is the actual application submission date.

Don't know any details, but I think the "good dude" label would no longer be applicable, if there were indeed an integrity issue.

Once again, to emphasize--unlike "a lot" of the rest of society, government, and the business world, FedEx does not accept lying, cheating, or stealing. If you make an honest mistake or screw up, admit it (tell the truth) and press on.

When FDX opened their application window in February 2002, I was in a hotel in Anchorage. That morning I hiked down to the flight school on Merrill Field, bought a FEX study book and scheduled the computer test. I crammed all day and night, went down and took it the next day. Then I filled out the application. I can't relate to someone not doing it that way. What's the excuse?

I've heard "He's a good dude" so often I'm convinced 90% of us are above average, great candidates.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

The change is intended to shift hiring toward good pilots over the old good dude criteria.

I'll never understand why smart guys crack under the pressure of the hiring process. Do they underestimate the importance of their actions? To get ahead of other guys? Do they feel they must do it to make a few more dollars over their lifetime? I'm always surprised when I hear these stories. You really find out someone's true nature when they are under stress. A side of them you've never seen may emerge. I'm especially dismayed by how often I've seen it derail former mil guys.

There really is no way to justify these missteps. If you've gone thru life using this type of "skill" to get ahead now is the time to give it up. If you can.

I recently had an "FO class" at which "O" spoke. He addressed this very thing and said they were checking dates on everything. An integrity check, as he called it. Dishonesty will sink you faster at this company than anything else I can think of. Not worth it.

got the same letter. Mine was already uploaded. Don't know what this means.

You guys/girls that got the email and phone call, what do you currently fly and what is your experience? Thanks for the info.

Got an e-mail, no phone call. 2700 hr C-130 IP w/sponsor

It means it was a system-wide email to all active profiles.

No email or phone call for me.

- 12000+ hours Part 121 large jets
- 4000+ PIC Part 121 large jets
- 20+ years of Part 121 experience
- heavy jet international experience
- 5 jet type ratings
- former Part 121 Check Airman
- current FEX written
- 4 year college degree
- no accidents/incidents
- 3 FedEx references

.....and NO sponsor. :(

But I will keep trying and hope for the best! Who knows, one day "the call" may come, even without a sponsor. It's a long shot, but you never know.....you have to be an optimist in this business.

I think it's only an issue if you say you have a new one and the most recent one wasn't done before you said you had it on your Profile. ie been dishonest about the date.
Might be worth making a note on that FE-W line if you think it could come over in the wrong way.

I was in a recent new hire class at FedEx and the system (head) chief pilot mentioned this particular scenario at least 3 times in his limited interactions with the class. (Fudging the date you said you had a FEX-W and when you actually had one.) VERY important to him. He even said to spread the word.

They have thousands of Profiles to choose from so if there is even a hint of dishonesty, etc. it's in to the next qualified applicant.

So did you got hired?

Yes! Pretty excited, to say the least.

Congrats and welcome aboard.

Just save your old test results and have them for your interview. If you do the right thing you won't get dinged.

One thing to note ref the e-mail about the FEX-W upload...it mentions to block out any data fields that list Social Security number, age or date of birth. On my FEX-W test report, the "Applicant ID" field was my date of birth, so I made a photocopy, put white out on that field and scanned it in. Trying my best to follow instructions!

I had my old FEX expire on the month I put in my app. I immediately took it again so it wouldn't lapse. So the FEX written I uploaded shows the new date. How can I make HR aware of this?

I don't know how you could contact them directly, but I'd upload BOTH test reports so they could see that you did, in fact, have the FEX-W before you established a profile.

Then figure out how to talk to someone about it.

How can you have 3 references but no sponsor? Why won't one of your references sponsor you?

IS APC accurate re: 5-6 yr Captains in HKG?

Si, correcto info El Guappo.
fbho

They are all already sponsoring someone else. Also, I have never flown with any of them, so I am not even sure if they could sponsor me regardless. They did all generously offer to act as a reference for me, and for that I am grateful. I have listed their names and employee numbers on my FedEx application.

I personally know of at least 3 guys that have gotten called without sponsors or references. They all had MD-11 time though.

That's good to hear. I was under the impression that a sponsor was pretty much required. Maybe there is hope for guys like me after all!

But this is not representative of the new reality.

These captains are folks that got HKG after the Paris base was cancelled -IF they had HKG captain on their bid.

And this all occurred before the Age 65 rule.

The last pilot to get HKG captain on any bid since Age 65 had around a 2250 seniority number - that's more than halfway up the master list. Looks like 15 years or so for that one.

The junior widebody captain seat in the company since Age 65 is the MD11 in Memphis. And it's taking 13 years.

The Junior narrowbody captain seat is the 727, and it's looking like about 6 years. The 757 in Cologne is about ten years, or about eleven in Memphis.

...latest word from two independent/verifiable sources is that HR is now offering some guys test dates, immediately followed by a conditional interview date.

i.e. no longer telling them that they'll need to wait a few days to see if they passed or not...followed by another round of interview dates later.

These guys are being told --- will let you know that day/afternoon, if you passed...and if so, plan to complete the rest of the interview process the next few days.

I think HR is under a bit of pressure to get more new hires in the school-house very soon.

I've got a friend who is testing Monday morning!! 747 captain

Saw a new hire class wondering around yesterday, Monday July 11th. Anybody know to which seats they were assigned?

That's generally what new hires do.......wonder around.

I think you can sit anywhere in class. No assigned seating. :cool:


Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

You mean potential 727 S/O, and probably happy to be in that situation.

I have a buddy that started in that class. He said he was offered 727's FO Alaska or Memphis and chose Memphis!

He should have picked the 727 Alaska. He would have had better seniority.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Looks like the training letter has been updated. four 727 S/O new hire classes thur mid Aug. About a dozen new hires going to ANC during the same time frame.

Can we say - Purple Nugget part Deux :eek:

I seem to remember a problem with our seniority list being out of whack a few years back - or was that just a "bad dream"?

From what I've been told the default assignment is 727SO. But no one in the last two classes have gotten SO. All 727FO, save for some HKG guys and ANC MD-11 guys.