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Old 06-07-2011 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by exviperdriver
How are classes sorted once you get a date ... last 4 of SSAN? If so, how does that work? High or low?
Historically, high to low. A 9999 gets first pick. Seniority #'s given at first day.
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Old 06-07-2011 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by exviperdriver
How are classes sorted once you get a date ... last 4 of SSAN? If so, how does that work? High or low?
used to be sorted by last 4 of SSAN - highest # = most senior in class.

ie - last 4 of 9999 would be most senior - 0001 would be caboose
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Old 06-07-2011 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
used to be sorted by last 4 of SSAN - highest # = most senior in class.

ie - last 4 of 9999 would be most senior - 0001 would be caboose
Where would 0000 fall out?
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Old 06-07-2011 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
Where would 0000 fall out?
I'm going with dead-freekin-last.
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Old 06-07-2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8doggie
I'm going with dead-freekin-last.
But wouldn't that make 0000 the caboose?
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Old 06-07-2011 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8doggie
I'm going with dead-freekin-last.
Only till the next class starts!
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Old 06-08-2011 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FXDX
Just an aside (not that I am insinuating that the above speculations are correct), but why do you suppose the recent classes of new hire back seaters have been removed from the 727 training letter?

Possibly going to other seats?
These folks were not "removed" from the Training Letter. The Training Letter is updated every so often and does not reflect historical start dates. As of this morning (6/8/11) the first 727 class start date showing on the Letter is 18 July, so all of the class start dates and students prior to this have been cleared off the Letter. I don't know of any place in VIPS where the old class start dates and students are archived.
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Old 06-08-2011 | 08:53 AM
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I understand how the training letter works. How is it that there is nobody on the training letter until Jul 18th?

Removed or cleared off, not much difference, no?
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Old 06-08-2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FXDX
I understand how the training letter works. How is it that there is nobody on the training letter until Jul 18th?

Removed or cleared off, not much difference, no?
"I understand how the training letter works." Obviously not. The last class of new hires, from April, is still in training. Their class has just been cleared from the training letter. Guys whose classes have already started drop off the training letters all the time, on all the various airframes.

As for no training til July, as the 727 is a pretty low priority nowadays, (almost as many reserve lines as regular lines,) they aren't in a rush to train new front seaters. As for second officers, none of the upcoming classes is going to the backseat, so no SO training unless a guy turning 65 wants to stay. Doesn't seem like a big mystery to me.
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Old 06-08-2011 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
"I understand how the training letter works." Obviously not. The last class of new hires, from April, is still in training. Their class has just been cleared from the training letter. Guys whose classes have already started drop off the training letters all the time, on all the various airframes.

As for no training til July, as the 727 is a pretty low priority nowadays, (almost as many reserve lines as regular lines,) they aren't in a rush to train new front seaters. As for second officers, none of the upcoming classes is going to the backseat, so no SO training unless a guy turning 65 wants to stay. Doesn't seem like a big mystery to me.
Wow, again here we go with the semantics. Ok, the names were cleared from the training letter, not removed.

Subtlety is obviously lost on the internet. I was trying to suggest to those looking for info on the new hire classes that perhaps those who are hired here in the next couple of months would likely be training in a different seat than the 727 back seat.

You evidently agree, you just had a hard time saying it without the snipe.

Thanks for the help.
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