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Old 04-26-2016 | 05:46 PM
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In my humble opinion, and based on observation, our system form and night flying make it to where pilots don't get better at Fedex. They have the skills they brought to the company, and they either hang on to them or they don't, but they don't get better.

We were all probably better pilots at the 11-month point here....
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Old 04-26-2016 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck

We were all probably better pilots at the 11-month point here....

I was a Flight Engineer at the 11-month point here.






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Old 04-26-2016 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I was a Flight Engineer at the 11-month point here.






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I was a B-727 Flight Engineer at the 60-month point here.
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Old 04-26-2016 | 07:51 PM
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When I was at CAL, we had year 2 guys awarded 737 EWR Captain.

They did fine and the FAA didn't care.

I'm not sure why some Fedex guys get all riled up about this when the major airlines have never cared.
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Old 04-27-2016 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
We were all probably better pilots at the 11-month point here....
That's exactly why anyone with over, say 3 or 4 years at the company should be fired immediately. Just look at the cost savings: salary; vacation; use of sick time; retirement; the list goes on and on.
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Old 04-27-2016 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Was the 5/15 DOH junior captain award an actual award, or a practice bid/snapshot thing before the final comes out?
It was the last Practice Bid.
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Old 04-27-2016 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
I completely disagree with that statement and look forward to flying with them.



I think those of us who wrote 'new hires' are aware they are not in Basic Indoc today. Technically, you are correct sir Walrus. But, come on man, less than a year on property - they might as well be new-hires considering the stagnation here in the last decade (weren't NB CA awards in 2010-2014-ish, guys with 10+ years on property?).

Of course, this was still just a practice bid. Might it even go even more junior on the final bid?
By the time those most junior captains get trained, given the problems with the 757/767 program, they will have 3-4 years on the property.

As to history, when I finished check out in the 727 left seat, I had just over 5 1/2 years on the line. 6 months later, guys with 4 1/2 years were finishing up. Of course, this was the '04-06 timeframe.
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Old 04-27-2016 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXpilot
Really?! Really?! Like we have never had a position of command prior to FedEx? Most of us have all been Captains at other airlines, or AC commanders at some point. I'll give you that a small few might not have had the opportunity for upgrade, but we all have the capability, otherwise, we would not have been hired.

Annoys the crap out of me when I fly with a guy that talks to me like I've never flown an airplane before. Guess my 11k hours and prior LCA job just don't count here.
You certainly aren't ready for the left seat. You must be a joy to fly with with this attitude. Ah, another FO who knows he can do it better than everyone else. My sympathy for your future FO's.
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Old 04-27-2016 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
By the time those most junior captains get trained, given the problems with the 757/767 program, they will have 3-4 years on the property...
Yes, exactly. They'll have at least 2 years on property. That's why it's ridiculous to have some of our outstanding aviators "concerned" over FO's flying with these junior 757 captains.
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Old 04-27-2016 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Yes, exactly. They'll have at least 2 years on property. That's why it's ridiculous to have some of our outstanding aviators "concerned" over FO's flying with these junior 757 captains.
But, but, but, there hasn't been enough time to fully indoctrinate them into the FedEx way of doing things! They might still be free thinkers. Oh the travesty! 😀
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