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Old 09-14-2017 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by penaltybox
That seems to be the consensus. Are their tests that similar?
Similar enough FedEx terminated the developer who was on probation at FedEx.

So yeah...I'd say its a pretty damn good test prep program. Just don't get so enamored with the testing part you don't prep for day 2 of the interview. I see people overweight the prep on the test side at the expense of SBI, etc at times with bad results.

FO I am flying with this month told me he spent over 160 hours preparing for his interview and his tests. It was a grind at times. He reminds me every leg the effort to get here was worth it.
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Old 09-15-2017 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
Similar enough FedEx terminated the developer who was on probation at FedEx.

So yeah...I'd say its a pretty damn good test prep program. Just don't get so enamored with the testing part you don't prep for day 2 of the interview. I see people overweight the prep on the test side at the expense of SBI, etc at times with bad results.

FO I am flying with this month told me he spent over 160 hours preparing for his interview and his tests. It was a grind at times. He reminds me every leg the effort to get here was worth it.
Thanks for the tips. How should one study for the SBI?
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Old 09-15-2017 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by penaltybox
Thanks for the tips. How should one study for the SBI?
You mentioned that you are already signed up with ECIC. They host SBI Prep webinars. Sign up and attend one of those. Tickets go fast so be sure to sign up early.
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Old 09-15-2017 | 01:49 PM
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As a pilot that recently passed both days...I feel like if you're a current 121 Captain, there's no need to spend $$$ on the job prep sites. Unless you need the "confidence booster". Out of 11, I'm the only one I know of that didn't spend for a job prep. and it worked out. But then again I've been prepping for well over 8-9 years, with general studying of gouge and what friends have experienced recently. Military folks might need the prep if they've been out of CRM or actual cockpit time in recent years. But having flown with many ex F-18, A-10, KC-135, P-3, C-2, E-6 First Officers over the past few years at my current job, all of them are solid and learn quickly!

FYI, the process has just changed...so we've been told. My advice, just be a solid pilot that knows basic job knowledge, AIM/Aerodynamics/Weather/etc. The other parts are just there to see if you're a good fit, IMO. Above all else, SAFETY is the key and should be emphasized at all times, whether panel interview or SBI. (like we've been trained since day one of flight training)

Good luck to all! This is an amazing company! I was truly impressed at the money spent on facilities for crew and staff. Top notch is not saying enough!
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Old 09-15-2017 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BAe3100FO
As a pilot that recently passed both days...I feel like if you're a current 121 Captain, there's no need to spend $$$ on the job prep sites. Unless you need the "confidence booster". Out of 11, I'm the only one I know of that didn't spend for a job prep. and it worked out.
Congrats and welcome. I have to disagree with your advice though. Less than 10% of your group (i.e. You) chose to press without some prep and it worked out. Kind of a small sample to use in support of not using professional prep options.

One shot at a potentially multi-million dollar career is certainly worth taking every opportunity reasonably available to enhance the chances for success. Getting a fresh perspective on one's documents, stories, general knowledge and overall presentation of themselves can only help and enhance the effort. The bottom line is this: Do you really want to sit there looking at the TBNT letter wondering if a small investment in some interview prep would have tipped the scales in the other direction?
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Old 09-15-2017 | 04:44 PM
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Adlerdriver and BAe3100FO,

I agree with the both of you. If a candidate is comfortable with his knowledge and his interview demeanor, he or she will probably do well. However, if someone has doubt about anything, then I think it would be in their best interest to seek some "professional help." If they didn't get offered the job, I'm sure they'd be kicking themselves for a long time.

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Old 09-16-2017 | 07:08 AM
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At the end of the day the couple hundred dollars to spend on prep will pay for itself VERY quickly. Id hated to not spend the money and then walk about of day 1 or 2 with a failing grade.
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Old 09-16-2017 | 07:20 AM
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Even if you are confident in your interview ability, I still think it's worth paying for the second set of eyes and ears to give you some honest feedback.
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Old 09-16-2017 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
Even if you are confident in your interview ability, I still think it's worth paying for the second set of eyes and ears to give you some honest feedback.
For sure. There's only a few airline jobs out there that I really wanted....maybe 3-4 airlines that I was interested in. This job is like winning the lottery (remind me of that during a night hub turn in the winter, though). It's not like there are thousands of other jobs out there at this level. How much interview practice do people even have in this industry?

If someone doesn't bother to spend a tiny amount of money to prep, I think they don't really want this job. Sure, some may get lucky anyways, but then that's the guy who hasn't bothered to look at anything before our sim check, because he's sure he's got it all wired.
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Old 09-16-2017 | 08:16 AM
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I agree that prep is important. And I did my due diligence, but now days folks are getting multiple job offers within a short span and some companies are very similar in day 1 and 2.
Like I said before if one isn't polished (because of a recent interview or 3) then it's definitely worth the $.
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