Last number I heard was around 189 max, give or take a few I'm sure. I think there are around 115 or 120 that have to retire because of age 65. I haven't looked at the number in a while, but it's some where around there.

I also know of some (at least 3 personally) who will retire with minimum notice (1 day?). It makes no sense to me, but it sounded as if they see it as a sort of 'revenge' for our TA/CBA, at least from the couple of guys who shared their plan with me.

Probably because the 1 year notice option doesn't fit into their plans! Maybe if there would have been some financial incentive for those with less than a year planned they would have given notice.

I agree. A sliding scale for giving notice would've been nice for us, and for the company, IMO. The $40K for 12 months notice, $20K for 6 months notice, $10K for 3 months... something with more flexibility.

What would you get if you gave notice during the halftime break of cmv2?

The exact number of mandatory retirements is 94 according to the 2016 ALPA calendar.

I like the way you think! Thanks for the laugh. :D

A standing ovation from the FO and a lot of praise at the watercooler...

I believe the infamous Derrick Dennis of ALL ATPS fame left this way.

yup...........:D

I had heard about that story. Pretty brave. I wonder if he showed up in jeans that day. :D

Could you still jumpseat home? :o

Not to derail the thread, but it would be nice to negotiate for our retirees to have access to the jumpseat on personal status. I know we don't have 'cabin' seats for guys not holding a current medical, but we used to carry non-pilots in all our jumpseats before. Has that ever been brought up in negotiations?

Along the same lines, back in the very early '90's, UPS flew a DC-8 into Denver. The two pilots got off the jet, but the F/E stayed behind in the cockpit for a while. When she finally came out, she had changed from her uniform into her civilian clothes and walked up to the Captain and said: "Thanks for the ride. I start class at United tomorrow", and walked off into the sunset. I assume she mailed back her ID badge along with her uniforms and those brown suitcases that UPS issued. I'm assuming she didn't much care for UPS.

That's a fact. I was the FE in the Sim that day!

Are you sure? I thought it was way more than that. Though I have not received my 2016 ALPA calendar yet.

I can't see giving retirement notice in the middle of a sim, or a trip. That seems vindictive, and might just screw your crew. Gotta come back and repeat that sim, because we don't have a captain anymore. That's just cruel.

If one hates the company that much, they should retire the minute they can. Don't wait to be looking at age 65 around the corner.

Yes, I'm sure i can count names. 84 members plus 10 non-members. You can download it from the Fedex MEC site

Post 9-11, you need a flight deck door that locks to do something like this.

True, under 121 rules. Supplemental rules allow a lot more leeway. I'd love to see retiree jumpseats on cargo airlines though, one would think that there could be a way to vet retirees and to have them put into the Cass system, "should" just require a regulatory change... O well.

Quote from DW (MEC Chair during C2006) during age 60 change discussion. "We don't represent or negotiate for retirees, only current members." :cool:

Careful Cloud, some union members will be upset you mentioned something like that! :eek:

Dang. Thanks for the info, I found it. Some people I expected to see on it, others that were unexpected.

No worries.. I just hope more decide to join them!

Two questions about current hiring details:

1. How do they offer the CJO, day of interview? Week after via phone?

2. What is the metric to sort senority? Last four social? Age?

Thanks in advance...I have one coming up and the wife was asking me these questions...trying to manage future expectations.

Good grief :rolleyes:
When I retire I'm going to travel civilized and buy real tickets. Probably first class on anything over 5 hours (that's what I've gotten used to :D). I want to die with zero in my bank account - the money equivalent of a zero sick balance at retirement. Sooner or later you just need to stop the cheap-ass pilot madness.

Hell, I think I'll buy a USA today EVERY day, too. Just to be extra crazy.

I hear you on the last check bouncing. As far at the jumpseats, I was talking about international primarily. IMO I'd rather fly on one of our 74's most of the time instead of on a pax carrier. Pretty much the same seats, a bed... and use the FC $20K saved for the hotel & beverages. Not cheap, just have my priorities. YMMV

Maybe that's a reasonably consistent option at your company. When our own active pilots can't count on a ride for actual work internationally from some of the captains (small c) on the toolbox at FedEx, retirees would probably be best served to use another option.

If you can't travel first class AND buy hotels, beverages..... hookers and blow.... Well, that's just poor retirement planning. :D

Would you please explain where to find this. I've looked around the MEC site and still can not find it. Thanks

Go to the epocket calendar and scroll down to retirements.

Forget the hookers and blow, but after being an airline crewmember for all these years, wanting 4 star hotels and flights at 2 star prices, I'm sure you'll find it. Air miles upgrade, and you can get the USAA for free on the flight. While we may have money after we all retire, no reason not to get your upgrades at a bargain price.

I have heard about some 777 capts denying jumpseats. I can't imagine a good enough reason to do that to someone. Ever. One guy told me he had to buy an $1800 ticket home instead.

LOL. We have a 99.9% chance here of not being denied a jumpseat, but we don't have your retirement... If we get parity with this next contract, I'm in for all the above! :D

The link still says 2015 Epoket Calendar, but after you click on it you'll see the 2016 ecalendar link

From what I have heard from a few bros that have recently been hired.. CJO comes very soon after the conclusion of the interview process. Usually within 24 hours.

Metric for seniority is last four of Social.. the higher the number the more senior within your class.

Good luck!

FedEx need all the quality pilots they can get these days!!

Thank you!

If a guy had a trip that ended at an international location, he'd have a ticket on the company home. So saying someone was out $1,800 because they were denied a j/s isn't true. While denying a j/s to a crewmember may not be the nicest thing, its still capt's permission internationally. If a crewmember thinks he should be ****ed because he is trying to save DH money and can't get a j/s isn't right either. FX Capts had to fight to get Capt's authority from the company so no one should be complaining if a Capt exercises that right for whatever reason.

I believe he was referring to HKG FDA pilots commuting from the states, or returning from a visit stateside. No bank or dh from the company.

We also have Capt's who live overseas and commute.

Flew with one great Capt who lived in India and had some issues with the odd Capt

It isn't always 777 captains. Was denied a domestic Jumpseat on an 11 once.... Crew rest plane. Didn't want anyone up front I guess.

Seriously dude? Only at Fedex is a jumpseat seen as this huge power play by the captains. At any other airline there really isn't a question - the Captains readily give up the seats to any pilots - commuters, vacationers, whatever. For some reason at Fedex, the Captains make it a big deal. I'm not talking about the mechanics who want access to the cockpit, or the strange Fedex employee who wants to go around the world with no bags - I'm talking about just another fellow pilot who wants a ride. Here at Fedex I've seen captains murmur many times things like "can't believe what that guy is wearing to jumpseat", "jeez, he should have met us at the desk", and other similar things. It's just thought of as a common courtesy in most of the industry except for here. Now that's not the norm but it's happened enough times where it's left an impression on me - no, I'm not a commuter and I've never had any personal problems - these are actual Captains I've flown with that have done and said these things.

I agree. I can't imagine turning down another FedEx pilot for a jumpseat unless the guy was drunk or on drugs (never seen that happen). I'm certainly not going to turn someone down because I want more room in the cockpit. I really don't like having jumpseaters in the cockpit, but if it's required to give someone a ride, no problem. I can't imagine turning down a commuter guy or gal either, I really like it when they jumpseat on us, as an opportunity to finally return the favor.

As far as the guy who said he was out $1,800, there can be many reasons. Whether he was at an FDA, whether his bank was too low to pay for a ticket, whether he was just jumpseating to go on vacation somewhere, he was out a lot of money because someone wanted a little extra room in the cockpit (the stated reason). Leaving someone in a foreign country stranded, because you want some extra space. Is this what we fought to keep Captain's authority for? Ugh.

Now that's funny.

Asked to go to Paris once from MEM, where I would then be the RFO for the same crew. Capt said "no"....he had given permission to one JS and didn't want another.

Flew with a very gracious 777 crew on same date/city pair and enjoyed the ride.

It was the captain's call, and his right. That said...he is retired, and I don't miss him, nor does anyone I've ever given the name.

If you need a ride around Asia on my flights...welcome aboard. Sorry about the ****ter door, but I'll take as a many as want to go along...

At UPS there are captains who will not take jumpseaters on the 767. Total A S S H O L E S.........fact that one of them lives in PHX and regularly commutes on the pax airlines 737's and has no problems crowding those pilots but he is to good of a pilot to be crowded himself....

Unfortunately there are quite a few pilots that are retired that I won't miss Albie. Was Dick C. the Capt that denied you the J/S? That guy lived in his own private Idaho! I"m a 777 Capt and took 4 J/S from CGN to MEM a few month back. I will never leave a crew member behind if I have anything to say about it, probably even if he's a dick:)