Working on the backside of the clock, if you do a regular schedule and keep the same schedule when not working, isn't necessarily harmful and can be adjusted to; constantly changing your circadian rhythm with different schedules is what is so disastrously unhealthy.

"That's a Bingo!"

I hear some say the 777 is where the biggest money is. Are you saying the 767 and 300 are where the money is on the domestic side?

If you look at the airline profile page at the top of your screen you will see 2nd year WB pay is $30 more per hour than 757 pay. 777 for various work rule reasons probably pay a 10 or 20% premium over that.

Chris,

Lag2 is correct.

For the most money overall, the 777 is the choice.

However, a new hire will stay junior there a long, long time, and might be on reserve, which pays less with more days in MEM.

For the most money domestic, the wide body aircraft, 767 and A300, are the next best choice. (Not including MD-11 here, because Cajun said he didn't get that choice).

757 pays less, but gives you better seniority.

A300 bidpack is slowly getting worse. 767 bidpack is slowly getting larger.

It's really not that hard.

Of course, as they always say, "bid what you want to fly".:D

I'm not so sure you seniority will be that much different under the current hiring practices. It appears that the same number of new hires are going into each seat. If you go widebody you will probably will stagnate of slow later but right now it looks like you will have the same number of guys and gals coming under you no matter what seat you get.

Sorry I haven't logged on in the last few days to write, but wanted to say thanks for the the words and advice (Nightflyer and Flyboyd, specifically)...this is exactly the kind of info I am seeking.

Much appreciated as always...and looking forward to meeting some of you in a few weeks...

Cheers,
cajun

Looks like about 15 CGN F/O slots coming open in the new year.

And my voicemail mailbox is still empty. Such a sad day.

Keep updating your app.

"For the first time in many years, pilot hiring has continued through our busy Peak season. On December 5th, we welcomed our latest class of FedEx New Hire pilots. Plans for 2017 include two classes each month, with scheduled class dates already in place through May, 2017. Retirements and growth are fueling this unprecedented and sustained plan to bring new pilots aboard.

Flight Recruitment has recently implemented new programming changes to the Rack and Stack system to facilitate our evaluation of applicant skills and experience. Applicants should update their profile to ensure accurate and current information is captured.

We have many applicant profiles in the Pilot Credentials system. The online window for external pilot applications is still open. Applicants will find a list of qualifications as well as general Q&A about the process on the website.

Many thanks to the Pilot Recruitment department in their diligence to provide FedEx Flight Operations the finest pilots in the industry!"

That is pretty impressive.

Everyone has their thing in life, but I'll pass along some friendly advice since it is the Holiday Season.

Just because you CAN make a lot of money doesn't mean you HAVE to make a lot of money.

Heard the above from a Delta pilot and thought it was excellent advice.

Welcome to all the new hires, good luck to all those applying!

So...the big question is, what are these changes?

Two BI classes ago, the VP of Flight Ops stated that the primary recommendation system was going to change to a "10-year chit". Not exactly sure what that meant, but the basic thrust was the sponsorship program will have more weight to the HR department. He said this was already approved and awaiting software tracking implementation.

I guess the thinking would be that if you can only primary rec a pilot once a decade, it's going to be a high quality applicant since your name would be tied to that person for 10 years. Maybe that's a "silver bullet" to get an interview?

Mentioned at last BI as well. He is shooting for January if I remember correctly.

Maybe not the "Silver Bullet" you all hope for. 4300 or so pilots, and a max of 48 interviews a week. The math is against you.....but.....say you can get 3 or 4 bullets.....it sounded like that would probably get you an interview.

Just my 2 bhat work...your mileage may vary.

One of them was to change the scoring system. It seems the old system heavily favored military pilots. With the new system, civilian pilots with thousands of hours will have better chances of being called. Heard it from the VPs mouth in Indy.

(Grabbing my popcorn)

No need for popcorn nor urinary Olympics.

Other than having a primary recommendation (sponsor), I've been told by HR that having other recommendations does not numerically factor into your app score with HR. Does having multiple internal recs make an app more attractive? It must, but I was surprised to learn that it doesn't increase the score for that app.

I know someone who received an interview invitation with no job fair appearances, nor recommendations/sponsor. Seems like the doors are opening up.

There were many of those hired in 2016.

It's been happening. I was hired in late 2015 without knowing anyone who worked at FedEx, no job fairs, and an average resume. Since then, I've met several people in the same boat.

I interviewed unsuccessfully in mid 2016 and also had none of the above. I am wondering if the changes to the process would hurt my chances at getting a second chance a year later.

Funny looking back at the first 20 pages of this thread and seeing how drastically the outlook has changed at FX since 2014.

The pendulum swings...

Will 1000 TPIC still be required?

Single-engine, private pilot's license is pretty much all you need at most major airlines nowadays. That and your own set of diapers of course... :rolleyes:

So how do we get on the other side. Is it a new scoring system or is it a only purple bullets.


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https://fedex.pilotcredentials.com/i...qualifications

"A minimum of 1000 hours total fixed-wing pilot-in-command in multi-engine turbo prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500 or greater) is preferred."

Do 777 crews ever deadhead?

Yes.

Filler

The more senior you are the more you have the option to DH. Many DHs to ANC, some all the way to Asia or Europe to start the trip. Most trips with DHs are RFO trips.

Thanks for the intel! Not an easy decision.

Two questions:

A buddy told me that with more than one checkride busts you need not apply. True?

Second what's the trips typically like for newbs, mostly more than 4 days?

Two checkride busts are not disqualifying, but I would be ready to talk about them in the interview.

There is no typical. You could be on a 777 and get a 12 day trip (or 15 days of reserve in a row) if you could be on the 757 doing several sets of night hub turns.

Two questions on the app I was wondering if anyone had any insight on...

Did you ever fail a Flight Check-ride, Flight Evaluation or other portion of training or checking at this level?

What is at this level? Airlines? I only failed Commercial Single so just wondering if I should put that?

Were you ever enrolled in RAG/Aircraft Initial (AI) Training?

Im guessing thats military only and not Aircraft Initial as in a CRJ etc.

Question 19 on the "questionnaire" portion is the only one I could find that is about checkride failure. Is this the one you're talking about?

Yes, list your failed Commercial Single. Be able to explain why and what you did to overcome it.

Just found it. I think it's a follow on question regarding squadron level flight under the military training section.

If he wasn't being compensated professionally at the time of the failure then I would answer no to that question.

FedEx Management keeps a LOT of stuff secret.

One thing that's never been a secret is that if they catch you lying THEY WILL FIRE YOU! You might not get an opportunity to remove your belongings from your crashpad. That's a really bad position to be in during your probation year.

Personally, I'd be inclined to list it and be able to explain it than worry about it for a very long time. This might be a good question to pay Albief15 for his professional opinion and advise.

Good luck.

What he said.


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I think you just answered your own question.

Yeah, this probably applies to most airlines. There are no statutes of limitations on lying. I'd say leaving out important details such as failed checkrides, be it single engine only or not, could be interpreted as such...
Fess up, tell them how you learned from it and move on...

I realize the OP just wanted to fill out the application correctly but I'm amazed pilots nowadays will even ask these kind of questions? I'm either getting old or the new generation of aviators have a very different mindset... ..or both..

I had a bust - my first type ride. I got hired.

Nobody's perfect.