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Old 08-11-2015, 07:04 AM   #21  
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With all these last minute extensions, how does it work if you have a backend deadhead? If I have already deviated, once I block in, am I legally off the hook if there isn't a schedule change? Or is there anything about 30 mins after the flight.
I guess if I check my schedule right after opening the door and there isn't a notification, I am done and just don't answer the phone?

Reason I ask, I usually don't deviate until after I get in. Wondering if deviating before last leg would help not getting extended?
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With all these last minute extensions, how does it work if you have a backend deadhead? If I have already deviated, once I block in, am I legally off the hook if there isn't a schedule change? Or is there anything about 30 mins after the flight.
I guess if I check my schedule right after opening the door and there isn't a notification, I am done and just don't answer the phone?

Reason I ask, I usually don't deviate until after I get in. Wondering if deviating before last leg would help not getting extended?
Block in, don't turn your phone on, go to the airport or hotel, talk to no one. You are legal. If they want you to call them they will have the rampers let you know or use ACARs.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:13 PM   #23  
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You think?
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Block in, don't turn your phone on, go to the airport or hotel, talk to no one. You are legal. If they want you to call them they will have the rampers let you know or use ACARs.
The ramp agent was at the top of the stairs waiting to tell us that scheduling needed us to call.....I jokingly said to him that "you never saw us". Even I'm smart enough to know there is video of the ramp available if the company wants to push the matter and during negotiations and a strained scheduling office I wouldn't want to become a hostage.

I spent some time on the phone yesterday with contract enforcement and the sad truth of the matter is that the company has authority to "revise" the pairing on almost all occasions. It's our section 25 disruption pay that address these revisions. As previously mentioned in earlier post, our contract either needs to change the company's liberal revision policy or we have to negotiate far bigger disruption, layover, landing and duty period penalties the company has to pay us if they elect to revise our lives!

The revision policy and the way R24 is handled (bringing folks down to MEM and putting them in HSTBY so CRS can abuse them on a moments notice violates the intent of R24) are two of the many must fixes for me on this contract. I'm opening up the scheduling section, if a TA ever arrives, and if these two areas aren't corrected then it's a NO vote for me without opening another section.

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The contract says a trip can be revised at any time. There is no definition of revision and no restriction. So a trip can be revised before it begins, they just have been waiting until you've already checked in to change it obviously to keep guys from avoiding it in other ways.
After talking to Contract Enforcement yesterday, I have to agree.....yikes! We better make the financial penalty for disrupting what we bid so high that it gives CRS pause to have to revise.
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After talking to Contract Enforcement yesterday, I have to agree.....yikes! We better make the financial penalty for disrupting what we bid so high that it gives CRS pause to have to revise.
The culture in CRS is the $$$ doesn't matter as long as the airplanes keep moving.
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Irish, agree completely, my response was to the previous post about how you find out. Dont check your schedule after you block in, be passive, if they want to screw you make them work for it.
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I was just looking for a definitive answer so I don't get disciplined or fired when I get off the airplane and run to the terminal to catch my flight home.

Already got hit for a 4 day extention that turned into 5 day after a deadhead cancelled this month. Plus called 4 out of last 7 days for draft from a 901 number other than scheduling??? No thanks, I'm enjoying my time off with my family!

You guys should have been hiring last year and bought a CAE 767 sim. Those two decisions by management has put us so far behind its not even funny! Now WE are paying for it with extensions, scheduling tricks and 2 am sim times.
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I was just looking for a definitive answer so I don't get disciplined or fired when I get off the airplane and run to the terminal to catch my flight home.

Already got hit for a 4 day extention that turned into 5 day after a deadhead cancelled this month. Plus called 4 out of last 7 days for draft from a 901 number other than scheduling??? No thanks, I'm enjoying my time off with my family!

You guys should have been hiring last year and bought a CAE 767 sim. Those two decisions by management has put us so far behind its not even funny! Now WE are paying for it with extensions, scheduling tricks and 2 am sim times.
Use caution CRS is using northern Mississippi area codes 662(?)
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