Substitution and Trip Revisions
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 148
With all these last minute extensions, how does it work if you have a backend deadhead? If I have already deviated, once I block in, am I legally off the hook if there isn't a schedule change? Or is there anything about 30 mins after the flight.
I guess if I check my schedule right after opening the door and there isn't a notification, I am done and just don't answer the phone?
Reason I ask, I usually don't deviate until after I get in. Wondering if deviating before last leg would help not getting extended?
I guess if I check my schedule right after opening the door and there isn't a notification, I am done and just don't answer the phone?
Reason I ask, I usually don't deviate until after I get in. Wondering if deviating before last leg would help not getting extended?
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
With all these last minute extensions, how does it work if you have a backend deadhead? If I have already deviated, once I block in, am I legally off the hook if there isn't a schedule change? Or is there anything about 30 mins after the flight.
I guess if I check my schedule right after opening the door and there isn't a notification, I am done and just don't answer the phone?
Reason I ask, I usually don't deviate until after I get in. Wondering if deviating before last leg would help not getting extended?
I guess if I check my schedule right after opening the door and there isn't a notification, I am done and just don't answer the phone?
Reason I ask, I usually don't deviate until after I get in. Wondering if deviating before last leg would help not getting extended?
#24
Bigger Penalties
I spent some time on the phone yesterday with contract enforcement and the sad truth of the matter is that the company has authority to "revise" the pairing on almost all occasions. It's our section 25 disruption pay that address these revisions. As previously mentioned in earlier post, our contract either needs to change the company's liberal revision policy or we have to negotiate far bigger disruption, layover, landing and duty period penalties the company has to pay us if they elect to revise our lives!
The revision policy and the way R24 is handled (bringing folks down to MEM and putting them in HSTBY so CRS can abuse them on a moments notice violates the intent of R24) are two of the many must fixes for me on this contract. I'm opening up the scheduling section, if a TA ever arrives, and if these two areas aren't corrected then it's a NO vote for me without opening another section.
Last edited by IrishSkies; 08-15-2015 at 03:25 AM.
#25
The contract says a trip can be revised at any time. There is no definition of revision and no restriction. So a trip can be revised before it begins, they just have been waiting until you've already checked in to change it obviously to keep guys from avoiding it in other ways.
#26
The culture in CRS is the $$$ doesn't matter as long as the airplanes keep moving.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 148
I was just looking for a definitive answer so I don't get disciplined or fired when I get off the airplane and run to the terminal to catch my flight home.
Already got hit for a 4 day extention that turned into 5 day after a deadhead cancelled this month. Plus called 4 out of last 7 days for draft from a 901 number other than scheduling??? No thanks, I'm enjoying my time off with my family!
You guys should have been hiring last year and bought a CAE 767 sim. Those two decisions by management has put us so far behind its not even funny! Now WE are paying for it with extensions, scheduling tricks and 2 am sim times.
Already got hit for a 4 day extention that turned into 5 day after a deadhead cancelled this month. Plus called 4 out of last 7 days for draft from a 901 number other than scheduling??? No thanks, I'm enjoying my time off with my family!
You guys should have been hiring last year and bought a CAE 767 sim. Those two decisions by management has put us so far behind its not even funny! Now WE are paying for it with extensions, scheduling tricks and 2 am sim times.
#29
I was just looking for a definitive answer so I don't get disciplined or fired when I get off the airplane and run to the terminal to catch my flight home.
Already got hit for a 4 day extention that turned into 5 day after a deadhead cancelled this month. Plus called 4 out of last 7 days for draft from a 901 number other than scheduling??? No thanks, I'm enjoying my time off with my family!
You guys should have been hiring last year and bought a CAE 767 sim. Those two decisions by management has put us so far behind its not even funny! Now WE are paying for it with extensions, scheduling tricks and 2 am sim times.
Already got hit for a 4 day extention that turned into 5 day after a deadhead cancelled this month. Plus called 4 out of last 7 days for draft from a 901 number other than scheduling??? No thanks, I'm enjoying my time off with my family!
You guys should have been hiring last year and bought a CAE 767 sim. Those two decisions by management has put us so far behind its not even funny! Now WE are paying for it with extensions, scheduling tricks and 2 am sim times.
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