FDX-Fruitful Week?
08-11-2015, 03:47 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: B-777
Posts: 455
Originally Posted by pilot141
I think our NC has a good handle on what we consider the "No-go" items.
The company has to bring the $$ to the table for anything to get to us for a vote.
And the "pilot bashing" is already going on. Flew with a guy who lives across the street from a GOC guy. He hires the GOC guy's kid to mow his lawn. Last week as he was paying him, the kid said "I hope you guys don't get a pay raise".
Excuse me? The kid then said that if the pilots got a pay raise, then his dad (a GOC guy) would get a pay cut in order to pay for the pilots.
Classic negotiating tactics. They want to cut the GOC guy's pay, but can't justify it. Bingo - the pilots get paid more, so you get a pay cut. Pathetic.
The company has to bring the $$ to the table for anything to get to us for a vote.
And the "pilot bashing" is already going on. Flew with a guy who lives across the street from a GOC guy. He hires the GOC guy's kid to mow his lawn. Last week as he was paying him, the kid said "I hope you guys don't get a pay raise".
Excuse me? The kid then said that if the pilots got a pay raise, then his dad (a GOC guy) would get a pay cut in order to pay for the pilots.
Classic negotiating tactics. They want to cut the GOC guy's pay, but can't justify it. Bingo - the pilots get paid more, so you get a pay cut. Pathetic.
08-11-2015, 04:17 AM
#52
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 711
Originally Posted by trashhauler
It all makes sense now. A couple of weeks ago I was flying to ANC and requested an extra 2K Lbs of fuel. I called the dispatcher to let him know and for the first time in the 10 years I've been a Capt, he started arguing with me about wether I needed it or not. He went on about the weather, etc and I told him I was putting on the extra 2k lbs. This phone call happened 1:15 before push. 5 mins before push still no fuel. So I acars'ed him and ask where my fuel was, he didn't respond but the fuel truck arrived. We took a 30 min delay because of this. Interestingly enough, we burned all the extra fuel and then some, a thunderstorm parked itself on final in ANC and we broke out around 400 ft. So much for your forcast dude!!
Last edited by Raptor; 08-11-2015 at 05:01 AM.
08-11-2015, 04:19 AM
#53
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Retired
Posts: 3,717
Originally Posted by pilot141
I think our NC has a good handle on what we consider the "No-go" items.
The company has to bring the $$ to the table for anything to get to us for a vote.
And the "pilot bashing" is already going on. Flew with a guy who lives across the street from a GOC guy. He hires the GOC guy's kid to mow his lawn. Last week as he was paying him, the kid said "I hope you guys don't get a pay raise".
Excuse me? The kid then said that if the pilots got a pay raise, then his dad (a GOC guy) would get a pay cut in order to pay for the pilots.
Classic negotiating tactics. They want to cut the GOC guy's pay, but can't justify it. Bingo - the pilots get paid more, so you get a pay cut. Pathetic.
The company has to bring the $$ to the table for anything to get to us for a vote.
And the "pilot bashing" is already going on. Flew with a guy who lives across the street from a GOC guy. He hires the GOC guy's kid to mow his lawn. Last week as he was paying him, the kid said "I hope you guys don't get a pay raise".
Excuse me? The kid then said that if the pilots got a pay raise, then his dad (a GOC guy) would get a pay cut in order to pay for the pilots.
Classic negotiating tactics. They want to cut the GOC guy's pay, but can't justify it. Bingo - the pilots get paid more, so you get a pay cut. Pathetic.
08-11-2015, 05:54 AM
#55
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 98
I highly doubt the company will cut anyone's pay, regardless of what's in our (eventual) new contract. I wonder who's spreading this bull crap. Could it be that someone trying to poison our working relationship with other employee groups, especially ones we work closely with (like GOC), thinking it will somehow lessen our resolve and make us lower our goals?
I hope you set the kid straight and assured him that any raise we get will have absolutely no effect on his dad's pay.
I hope you set the kid straight and assured him that any raise we get will have absolutely no effect on his dad's pay.
08-11-2015, 06:28 AM
#56
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 360
Originally Posted by HDawg
Tell the kid his dad should have checked the box that said pilot not GOC guy on his Fedex application.
He didn't check that box, therein ceases his argument. If he wanted our lifestyle and pay, he should've become a pilot. Then he could've checked that box. I'm not going to feel guilty for what I do, make, or enjoy. We all fought hard to get here.
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08-11-2015, 09:07 AM
#59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
to jet jock and mexc
I had a post not long ago forgot 6 9 tenthousand reads numerous replies. Seems they all get it but you cant so Ill try a diffewrent language
I grew up on the roman side of town were latin was spoken engich is my second language
But when it comes to mgmt baloney im a a roman warrior and wount eat a ship sand wich or mind your ship bird posts
U use agrgumentum ad nausium as a gramma nasi u dis me with the ad hominim and you go on ad infiniteum ergo make a point or quit drinking hateraid.
to jet jock and mexc
I had a post not long ago forgot 6 9 tenthousand reads numerous replies. Seems they all get it but you cant so Ill try a diffewrent language
I grew up on the roman side of town were latin was spoken engich is my second language
But when it comes to mgmt baloney im a a roman warrior and wount eat a ship sand wich or mind your ship bird posts
U use agrgumentum ad nausium as a gramma nasi u dis me with the ad hominim and you go on ad infiniteum ergo make a point or quit drinking hateraid.
08-11-2015, 09:16 AM
#60
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Bus driver
Posts: 322
This is just the beginning. The company will start more scare rumors to get all employees ****ed at the greedy pilots, loss of jobs, pay cuts, cut in benefits, tarnished company image, loss of shipping contracts, the compition will take market share, these are just the ones I remember. The rumors will rise in direct proportion to the money being talked about at the table.
I don't think we're close to a ta. This is another strategy they've used in the past, make us think we're close then play the union is being unreasonable.
Divide the employes then dived the pilots. Same formula, different contract.
I don't think we're close to a ta. This is another strategy they've used in the past, make us think we're close then play the union is being unreasonable.
Divide the employes then dived the pilots. Same formula, different contract.
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