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busdriver12 08-22-2015 12:01 PM

A great thing about this deviation bank, orvil, is that it doesn't have to be used just for going back and forth from home to work. If it is within three days of a trip, you can use it to go anywhere, for any reason. You can use the bank to go to Europe, Hawaii, the Far East, wherever, and that is completely within the contractual rules. Plane, train, boat, taxi, whatever.

However, this works well for the company. Since many of us live outside of Memphis, we generally go well below our deviation banks, and I'm sure they make millions of dollars out of the deal. Win/win, as long as they get the bogus deviation ticket fares fixed.

FDXLAG 08-22-2015 01:12 PM

Has anyone used their bank to claim tips for the maid or the driver?

busdriver12 08-22-2015 01:21 PM

You've always been able to use your bank for tips for the driver for a deviation (though if you go much above 15%, occasionally they will deny the excess tip). Never tried it for just a tip, for scheduled transportation, though.

Tips for the maid? Can't imagine being able to claim that unless she provided transportation (and has a taxi license).

Busboy 08-22-2015 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 1954763)

...Tips for the maid? Can't imagine being able to claim that unless she provided transportation (and has a taxi license).

I'm certain that riding the maid would not be an allowable expense. I would pay cash, anyway. So as not to leave a trail.

FDXLAG 08-22-2015 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1954780)
I'm certain that riding the maid would not be an allowable expense. I would pay cash, anyway. So as not to leave a trail.

And safer than Ashley Madison.

Seriously I thought I remembered Jet Jock claiming the dollar he tipped the maid and the dollar he tipped the driver once as an out of pocket expense. I figured I might start tipping more than the refund fee on empty beer bottles if we could do that.

Jetjok 08-22-2015 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1954755)
Has anyone used their bank to claim tips for the maid or the driver?

For the maid, in Subic, at the Grand Seasons.;) Three times.....No, Four.

busdriver12 08-22-2015 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1954780)
I'm certain that riding the maid would not be an allowable expense. I would pay cash, anyway. So as not to leave a trail.

I just knew someone was going to go down that road....:D

MaydayMark 08-22-2015 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1954755)
Has anyone used their bank to claim tips for the maid or the driver?


I usually include a tip in the "total fare" line on my taxi/limo credit card receipt. I really didn't care how the driver records the fare/tip percentages after I take my copy of the receipt.

gcsass 08-22-2015 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1954634)
I'm not sure how the concept would work at a passenger airline? Why wouldn't your airline just book you seats on YOUR airline?

Our contract says they can't schedule us on company jumpseats for trips that don't start or end at your base. So ... they have to buy us tickets on the pax carriers (our old contract also said that over 5 hours would be booked in FIRST CLASS, we have many International deadheads over 5 hours). FIRST CLASS tickets sometimes cost as much as $10,000 one way. I've never had the company question ticket prices as long as you stayed within your deviation bank (one of our few restrictions was we couldn't take the Concorde).

Because the company buys so many commercial tickets they negotiate corporate discounts with many of the airlines. At the end of the month they add up what they would have paid for your (discounted) tickets. You can spend that money to travel from your home to the deadhead city, or your home to your base.

The paperwork is a bit of a MAJOR hassle but if you don't live in domicile it can be a good deal. Some senior pilots bid all deadhead trips and only go to MEM for recurrent training (you can jumpseat or use your deviation bank for that).

Some airlines let us accumulate frequent flyer miles. For several years as a senior international f/o I was earning 250,000 ff miles/yr.

It's generally viewed as a good deal. One of the few problems in recent years is that the company has been "exaggerating" (pants on fire?) how cheap they could buy commercial tickets. Hopefully they fixed that in our latest TA?


Just to be technically correct anything over 5 hours requires a "higher class of service" up to 16 hours (IIRC) which then requires FC.

If you deviate then you just have to qualify for a higher class of service.....then your bank determines if you ride Biz or FC.

VSTOLG4 08-23-2015 12:14 AM

Deviation bank can be used +/- 3 days of ANY scheduled activity. Sim, RSV, Trip, STBY, etc...If it is on your calendar (except SCK, VAC, MED, MLA, etc) then you can tag an expense to the deviation bank. The key word is ANY scheduled activity.


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