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Old 08-28-2015, 07:48 AM
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Default MEC Vote 10-4 to approve-Similar to DAL MEC

We shall see if the membership Votes the same 65-35 NO.
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Old 08-28-2015, 08:12 AM
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The vote was 9-5 last week

10-4 this week

Who voted differently?

Why?

What changed?
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Old 08-28-2015, 08:15 AM
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Commando,

I think you are within the margin for error. +/-5%. I'd put money on it. I doubt there will be any single item that will rally the masses against. Giving up profit sharing was a very tangible and quantifiable issue that rallied the Delta pilots against.

I have not read it and am not saying I'd vote for it.
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Can we not get some basic info on it from an official source? The silence is deafening.
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If you follow closely what happened at Delta there were multiple issues with their TA --- the biggest of all was general.

Why are we giving concessions in a time of record profits, industry consolidation, low oil prices, high consumer demand & a pilot shortage..???

Additionally, their MEC made a very hard sell to the pilots, and painted a gloomy picture on what would happen if they voted it down

Yes --- members of their own MEC spoke directly in a very threatening manner

More specifically, they were going to give concessions not only on Profit Sharing, but also....

-Scope via Joint Ventures

-Sick Leave via 3rd Party Verification

- FO trips flown with LCAs for IOE

...and a few other areas

Basically, their pilot group stood up and said "no concessions" in this economic environment

Especially after giving up so much when they were threatened with bankruptcy
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Highlights...
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:24 AM
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Retirement SLB implementation...
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As always, the devil is in the details. Let's "hold our water" for the full language version of the TA...
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We waited 4 + years for this. I mean other than raise and retirement BS it we'll still kinda sucks. I mean what did we get really? Simple math (we'll sort of) this gives us about a 3.3 % raise from amendable date? Does that make sense?
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The SLAB explanation did't even explain what a SLAB is.
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