6 week bid periods
09-01-2015, 06:18 AM
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Care to guess the savings the company will reap by going to 11 bid periods in a year?
Many pilot overrides tied to the bid period, instructor and LCA. One less time the SIG needs to meet also. How many trips does the company eat for the week of the build?
Many pilot overrides tied to the bid period, instructor and LCA. One less time the SIG needs to meet also. How many trips does the company eat for the week of the build?
09-01-2015, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
But if we use you logic and a 6 week period is used vice 2 5 week periods we work less.
I'm trying to think of the last time the company or CRS made an interpretation or used a mechanic in the contract that benefitted me?
It seems like the company got a LOT of little things here and there fixed in their favor. It just feels like to me that they got more things fixed than we did. A lot of little things adds up as a win for them and a concession from us. This contract shouldn't have been about concessions from us and COLA raises.
I would have preferred more 3% contract extensions over this TA.
09-01-2015, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptor
But, that would require the company to make it work that way. It's their option.
I'm trying to think of the last time the company or CRS made an interpretation or used a mechanic in the contract that benefitted me?
It seems like the company got a LOT of little things here and there fixed in their favor. It just feels like to me that they got more things fixed than we did. A lot of little things adds up as a win for them and a concession from us. This contract shouldn't have been about concessions from us and COLA raises.
I would have preferred more 3% contract extensions over this TA.
I'm trying to think of the last time the company or CRS made an interpretation or used a mechanic in the contract that benefitted me?
It seems like the company got a LOT of little things here and there fixed in their favor. It just feels like to me that they got more things fixed than we did. A lot of little things adds up as a win for them and a concession from us. This contract shouldn't have been about concessions from us and COLA raises.
I would have preferred more 3% contract extensions over this TA.
09-01-2015, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
We are all getting worked up and we don't have answers. If the company can have less than 12 bids yes 6 weeks is a bad deal. If they are still required to have 12 bids, 6 weeks has many positives.
09-01-2015, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
We are all getting worked up and we don't have answers. If the company can have less than 12 bids yes 6 weeks is a bad deal. If they are still required to have 12 bids, 6 weeks has many positives.
If it does not say that, in lawyer proof language, they won't do it!!!
When the first contract passed, back in 98, I asked a manager the day before if the company was going to do away with the negative airman list, as was rumored by the "no" guys.
He said, the contract is silent on that, so he didn't see why the company wouldn't keep it.
The next day, the contract passed, and the negative airman list was gone!
So, the moral of the story is, if it is not in lawyer proof black and white language, the company will do what they please, to their benefit, not ours.
09-01-2015, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
So, FDXLAG, can you find for us in the contract where it says the company MUST have 12 bids per year?
If it does not say that, in lawyer proof language, they won't do it!!!
When the first contract passed, back in 98, I asked a manager the day before if the company was going to do away with the negative airman list, as was rumored by the "no" guys.
He said, the contract is silent on that, so he didn't see why the company wouldn't keep it.
The next day, the contract passed, and the negative airman list was gone!
So, the moral of the story is, if it is not in lawyer proof black and white language, the company will do what they please, to their benefit, not ours.
If it does not say that, in lawyer proof language, they won't do it!!!
When the first contract passed, back in 98, I asked a manager the day before if the company was going to do away with the negative airman list, as was rumored by the "no" guys.
He said, the contract is silent on that, so he didn't see why the company wouldn't keep it.
The next day, the contract passed, and the negative airman list was gone!
So, the moral of the story is, if it is not in lawyer proof black and white language, the company will do what they please, to their benefit, not ours.
Not sure what else I can say, if there is no 12 bid month guarantee this is enough for me to vote no, if there is I personally like 6 week bid months. In the past when going from a 5 week to a 4 week or vice versa I have had to work 3 weeks straight. This would help fix that.
09-01-2015, 07:42 AM
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According to ALPA Q&A webpage, it sounds like we may have asked for the 6 week.
A. 6 week bid periods are used to build less fatiguing schedules. They give the PSIT the ability to build week on- week off flying versus the back to back weeks of night hub turns in a 5 week bid period.
A. 6 week bid periods are used to build less fatiguing schedules. They give the PSIT the ability to build week on- week off flying versus the back to back weeks of night hub turns in a 5 week bid period.
09-01-2015, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
According to ALPA Q&A webpage, it sounds like we may have asked for the 6 week.
A. 6 week bid periods are used to build less fatiguing schedules. They give the PSIT the ability to build week on- week off flying versus the back to back weeks of night hub turns in a 5 week bid period.
A. 6 week bid periods are used to build less fatiguing schedules. They give the PSIT the ability to build week on- week off flying versus the back to back weeks of night hub turns in a 5 week bid period.
09-01-2015, 07:48 AM
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Because I saw it mentioned earlier as a bad side effect of 6 week bid periods...the new allowable expense for parking is $375 per quarter. That's a net increase of $300 per year but the "by quarter" system is an approvement over the "by bid period" system.
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