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Old 09-09-2015, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by angry tanker View Post
"You're missing the point. For a greater than 16 hour duty day, it must be booked on a non-stop flight. No such animal in Anchorage or Memphis. That is why LAX will stay open.
Once again, people griping about something they are apparently clueless about?

Ref. 8.A.5.c.iv "

Okay Cubicle Commander, I'll bite.
Ref. 8.A.3.b.v - Max deadhead shall not be scheduled for more than 22 consecutive hours.

Ref 8.A.5.c.iv - does say for deadheads scheduled more than 16 hrs, non-stop, discounted first, full fare first. But if you continue reading, all of the "intent" has been removed.

I wonder why? You don't think the company would use the argument that the one portion leg of the flight has to be non-stop as long as the whole duty day is under 22 hrs. No the company never pushes the limits on the contract knowing full well our union won't grieve it. So they could say - you are going MEM-ORD-DXB. It is legal in that it is under 22 hrs duty, and the actual block time is about 15+30.

I hate it when I am "clueless" about big holes in the contract. I hate it when the company takes advantage of these holes. Back to your cubicle, while the rest of the pilots talk about issues with POS contract.
It's really pretty simple. Under the current contract, there is no limit to the deadhead duty period. We actually added a limit....a plus for us. If the deadhead is over 16 hours, same old rules apply....gotta be non-stop and now (a give back) a lie flat seat. The 22 hours just limits them on airport show times and ground transportation time. So your example MEM-ORD-DXB is illegal under the current contract and will still be illegal under the TA because the duty day exceeds 16 hours and it can only contain "a" nonstop flight. ORD is a stop...so yes, I'll still with my clueless assessment. Now go back to your cubicle and do some coloring.
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Old 09-09-2015, 07:04 AM
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The 22 hr limit will allow the trip optimizer to work better for them and eventually eliminate all INTL Hotel standby pairings

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Old 09-09-2015, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by repoman View Post
The 22 hr limit will now allow them to build a shorter pairing getting rid of the intermediate layovers in Asia enroute to your final destination.
Really? Explain how. Give an example. Because under the current contract there is no limit.

DO I NEED TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR
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