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Old 10-01-2015, 09:03 PM
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From the SWA TA Sub-forum:

***Social Media. It's the strongest tool on earth! (Just ask Delta Pilots) Pass this along and tell your friends.


A few of us have now read through the entire TA several times. Below are our top 10 reasons, in no particular order, why we're voting NO.
We would all love hear some solid reasons to vote yes but so far the only yes vote justifications we've heard are based on fear of a worse deal, fear of a recession, fear the company's threat that "they will walk away from negotiations for a year," fear of $200/barrel oil...fear, fear, fear.
HINT: They want you to fear! They hired Randy Babbitt, that alone should tell you where the company stands. It would clearly be to our advantage to forego the "raises" and keep the protections of the current contract.
#8 alone is reason enough to vote no for us. The word PBS included in ANY negotiations(s) shows once again the company's view on our personal lives (what we have left). Our Quality of life will FOREVER be a thing of the past. We MUST stand TALL and FIRM on this one or we will forever enter into full dictatorship.
1) Ratification bonus is too low (3% retro is significantly higher than this offer)
2) No 401(k) contribution (only 10% match, again no retirement)
3) Redeye override only 3% (Is 3% worth not sleeping?)
4) SWAPA can waive rule allowing only single DH after redeye
5) Can only ELITT redeye flying for redeye flying
6) Giving away Max flying for FREE! (Really? They actually want MORE free from us)
7) SWAPA BOD can waive codeshare protections (This equals terminal Cancer!)
8) MOU= The beginning wedge to introduce PBS! (If the company says this is no big deal, after all they conveniently placed it next to the last page of the TA, then simply remove page 224 of 225.)
9) Fatigue calls require a fatigue report before getting paid (Can you say Mesa Airlines again, whats next Doctor notes?)
10) No appreciable improvements to Reserve (We all know our reserve system is brutal, our Reserve guys deserve support form all of us)
While contemplating your vote, considering the above and the following…
Fact is, SWA 737 Pilots work "considerably harder" than any other 737 Pilots in the industry. And the workload just keeps coming and coming! Is it not fair to be compensated "considerably" more for all our hard work?
In addition…the company "needs" this negotiation finalized. All signs clearly show that they want THIS TA to pass. One would ask themselves why would they want this to pass so bad? Could it weigh in their favor? It most certainly looks like it.
No matter your decision, PLEASE pass this to your fellow SWA Pilots, they deserve the opportunity to read it.
Thanks, Fly Safe

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Old 10-01-2015, 10:04 PM
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#3 made me laugh...

Thanks for posting. Interesting similarities, eh? I hope they vote theirs down too. Good for them.
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:32 AM
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That all sounds familiar. Although, in my opinion, the SWA TA is horrendous. Our current contract is far, far better. I'd take the 3% redeye override for us though! Ha!
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:13 PM
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Good luck from a line FedEx pilot. I hope the SW pilots can stand strong and get some QOL improvements along with a pay raise.
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Old 10-02-2015, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackKnight View Post
#3 made me laugh...

Thanks for posting. Interesting similarities, eh? I hope they vote theirs down too. Good for them.
That was pretty funny---"Is 3% worth not sleeping?"

However, I'd need a pretty big override to fly all those legs that the SW guys do, even during the day!
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