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Old 10-04-2015, 03:17 AM
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I've been told the company can't draft you while you're on vacation. I don't know if that is true.

If it is true, do you agree with it?

If it were changed, would you consider it concessionary? How could it be changed if true?

I'm looking for ways pilots could get paid 150% instead of 50% while helping the company with their manning problem. And provide less justification for the push by airlines for another raise in regulated retirement age.
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:41 AM
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I've been told the company can't draft you while you're on vacation. I don't know if that is true.

If it is true, do you agree with it?

If it were changed, would you consider it concessionary? How could it be changed if true?

I'm looking for ways pilots could get paid 150% instead of 50% while helping the company with their manning problem. And provide less justification for the push by airlines for another raise in regulated retirement age.


865 pilots gave up 7,513 days of vacation in the last 7 months. I think the company is doing just fine. Of course, there was another large group of pilots that were lamenting that "they weren't senior enough to get vacation cancellation!!!" I guess that is called "Unity", in their eyes.

After this POS TA (most of it), why would any pilot "want to help the company"!?

The company has "spoken" loud and clear about what they think of us and our families. Even most of the Yes voters are not excited about it.

"You reap what you sow".
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"865 pilots gave up 7,513 days of vacation in the last 7 months. ..."

So much for unity. At half that number it would still be depressing!
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So much for unity. At half that number it would still be depressing!
So vote no and our unity will have the company on their knees.
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PolicyWonk View Post
I've been told the company can't draft you while you're on vacation. I don't know if that is true.

If it is true, do you agree with it?

If it were changed, would you consider it concessionary? How could it be changed if true?

I'm looking for ways pilots could get paid 150% instead of 50% while helping the company with their manning problem. And provide less justification for the push by airlines for another raise in regulated retirement age.
Correct. No drafting during any vacation footprint, PERIOD.
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Originally Posted by PolicyWonk View Post
I've been told the company can't draft you while you're on vacation. I don't know if that is true.

If it is true, do you agree with it?
So you were told that, but you don't know if it is true.

Why, have you been hoping that you could be drafted over vacation this summer? Could have made a little more money, and helped the company with their manning problem?
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So vote no and our unity will have the company on their knees.

Exactly.....
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:03 AM
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So you were told that, but you don't know if it is true.

Why, have you been hoping that you could be drafted over vacation this summer? Could have made a little more money, and helped the company with their manning problem?
Do you know the answer to the first question?

Your words, not mine in the second part. That's not why I asked the question.

If a logistics company has not given themselves the option of doing the above, then there must be an overarching reason why not. Perhaps the contract doesn't allow it. I haven't researched it yet. Was it the company or the pilots who blocked it or is it even prevented?

Since you had a fairly strong reaction to this as a concept, which of the following do you find most disagreeable?

SLB as currently proposed at 50% buyback, or the ability to be drafted at 150% during a vacation?
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12 View Post
So you were told that, but you don't know if it is true.

Why, have you been hoping that you could be drafted over vacation this summer? Could have made a little more money, and helped the company with their manning problem?


Don't feed the troll ... is PolicyWonk even a FDX pilot? Probably not?


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Do you know the answer to the first question?

Your words, not mine in the second part. That's not why I asked the question.

If a logistics company has not given themselves the option of doing the above, then there must be an overarching reason why not. Perhaps the contract doesn't allow it. I haven't researched it yet. Was it the company or the pilots who blocked it or is it even prevented?

Since you had a fairly strong reaction to this as a concept, which of the following do you find most disagreeable?

SLB as currently proposed at 50% buyback, or the ability to be drafted at 150% during a vacation?
I know the answers, and I certainly have strong opinions.

However, I asked those questions to illustrate my point that you are not a FedEx pilot, as you wouldn't be asking those questions if you were. I am curious as to why you are researching this.

I have no issue at all with non-FedEx pilots posting on this forum, or even people who are not pilots. However, I believe that people should present themselves honestly, without necessarily revealing their names. I don't think one should present themselves as a FedEx pilot if they are not.

I believe you have gone to way too much effort to just be trolling. So, what's your story? What do you do, and why do you have such an intense interest in certain sections of the TA?

I don't want to discourage anything that starts discussion, however, I would appreciate the answers to my questions.
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