FDX: min days off protection with carryover
11-12-2015, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Is this confusion due to language changes in the new contract or has this interpretation always been in the mix?
Related question: Carryover trip from Nov to Dec (awarded on original bidline, since that seems to be a factor) is creating potential min day off conflict in Dec.
Will they always drop the shortest trip in December to fix the MDO? I'm looking at a line in December with two trips. The longer (by about 3 CH) is mid-month. The shorter is a carryover trip (Dec to Jan) with enough days in Dec to fix the MDO issue if it were dropped. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with such a situation and if there is some kind of restriction on dropping carryout trips. Which one would they drop?
Related question: Carryover trip from Nov to Dec (awarded on original bidline, since that seems to be a factor) is creating potential min day off conflict in Dec.
Will they always drop the shortest trip in December to fix the MDO? I'm looking at a line in December with two trips. The longer (by about 3 CH) is mid-month. The shorter is a carryover trip (Dec to Jan) with enough days in Dec to fix the MDO issue if it were dropped. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with such a situation and if there is some kind of restriction on dropping carryout trips. Which one would they drop?
11-12-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Adlerdriver, in my limited experience (and conversations with Futures), they will NOT drop a carryout trip. Plan on the other trip being dropped. This advice is worth as much as you paid for it.
but that they won't drop a trip that carries over to the next month. Generally they will drop whatever shorter trip that will make the min days work, but not necessarily. If the shorter trip if over Christmas (or near it), they will probably not drop that trip, if there's something else available to drop. They will consider your requests, but zero guarantee.Been screwed on that one! Oh, my trip Christmas week will get dropped, because it fits the profile and I asked for it first. Ha, forget it, the desirable longer trip gets dropped because it's not near the holiday.
Unless, of course, the new contract changes any of that.
11-12-2015, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
I received confirmation from CRS futures, that no matter how you have the c/o trip on your line, min days off will be protected. Email/call GH to get the straight answer.
11-12-2015, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Adlerdriver, in my limited experience (and conversations with Futures), they will NOT drop a carryout trip. Plan on the other trip being dropped. This advice is worth as much as you paid for it.
Emailed crew planning after I posted here. I gave the same two trip scenario with the additional factor that I will need two days dropped to protect min days off. Here's what I got.
email #1 reply:
The minimum days protection program drops the trips –I believe it is programmed to not drop trips that operate over Christmas or New Years.
I respond:
So if the awarded line had a 2-day trip working over Christmas and a 12-day trip earlier in the month, the 12-day trip is going to be dropped? That's surprising.
I would think someone in crew planning would know the answer to that for certain.
Final response from CP:
A trip over Christmas will not be dropped. What I meant in regards to the programming was it will either drop the larger trip automatically or not drop anything and require us to handle it manually. Either way, the larger trip would be dropped if it is the trip not operating over Christmas.
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