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BlackKnight 10-17-2015 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 1994136)
Sounds like TA Festivus.


For the rest of us...

frozenboxhauler 10-17-2015 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT (Post 1994189)
and what exactly of that goes to negotiations funding?

I don't know the answer to that one, FLMD.
Cheers,
fbh

MaxKts 10-17-2015 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT (Post 1994045)
..how do we pay for this? .......feeling that hand in my pocket......

This brings up a good question!

Did we really get everything we could get out of the company or did we just run out of our own money to continue negotiating?

Now what page was that on in Union Busting 101?

GetRealDude 10-17-2015 12:46 PM

Without question, marginal available funds was a factor in acceptance of this TA. All MEC members including the top 3 were keenly aware. This is validated from multiple block reps. The SS regime bled the bank account big time. How much was accomplished during the 2 interim contract bump years? Very little. How much $$$ was expended in trip removal? A boat load. FACT.

The company playbook in all its insidious glory was very effective.

Viper446 10-17-2015 01:03 PM

I'm not pointing any fingers or making accusations, but what are the costs of negotiating? Aren't the MEC members paid regardless of whether we are negotiating? I think the MEC gets 90hrs or so a month. I may be wrong on this. I'm not sure how they are paid. Is the NC and his team an additional cost? I would think so. I'm not making any statement here about money, I just am curious why it would cost 8 million or so to get a TA.

frozenboxhauler 10-17-2015 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by GetRealDude (Post 1994484)
Without question, marginal available funds was a factor in acceptance of this TA. All MEC members including the top 3 were keenly aware. This is validated from multiple block reps. The SS regime bled the bank account big time. How much was accomplished during the 2 interim contract bump years? Very little. How much $$$ was expended in trip removal? A boat load. FACT.

The company playbook in all its insidious glory was very effective.

^^^^^^ SHACK!^^^^^
fbh

Busboy 10-17-2015 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Viper446 (Post 1994492)
I'm not pointing any fingers or making accusations, but what are the costs of negotiating? Aren't the MEC members paid regardless of whether we are negotiating? I think the MEC gets 90hrs or so a month. I may be wrong on this. I'm not sure how they are paid. Is the NC and his team an additional cost? I would think so. I'm not making any statement here about money, I just am curious why it would cost 8 million or so to get a TA.

I remember when the FPA organizers told us they could do it for $50,000. If we would just vote ALPA out. :eek:

FLMD11CAPT 10-17-2015 04:03 PM

Are you guys KIDDING ME!!!! No plan, no answers, no financials, a big shrug when asked what are our current allocations to negotiating and how we will pay. If voted down
!!!! SERIOUSLY? And T.C. Is running again with no apparent change in philosophy from when he was recalled..........REALLY FOLKS?

The Walrus 10-17-2015 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT (Post 1994575)
Are you guys KIDDING ME!!!! No plan, no answers, no financials, a big shrug when asked what are our current allocations to negotiating and how we will pay. If voted down
!!!! SERIOUSLY? And T.C. Is running again with no apparent change in philosophy from when he was recalled..........REALLY FOLKS?

What exactly do you have against Tony and his philosophy?

FLMD11CAPT 10-17-2015 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 1994576)
What exactly do you have against Tony and his philosophy?

Ummmmmm.......let's start with voting against the wishes of his constituancy.....ie why he was e
Recalled in the first place. Ummmmm not " being" in the the block he represented..........it goes on........


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