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MD11FLYER 01-08-2016 03:35 PM

Bye bye e grid
 
Amen and good bye!!!!

Huck 01-08-2016 03:45 PM

I don't think you read the article.

We'll have to use a code-generating app on a smart phone to log on.

So you'll need a) a smart phone, and b) cell service. I'm guessing.

Raptor 01-08-2016 04:54 PM

They also said if you didn't want to use an app, you could request a physical token. Anyone have any idea how that would work?

I hate to think that if I were at an international location, I would have to connect my phone to wifi simply to be able to log in on my iPad to check my schedule.

busdriver12 01-08-2016 05:03 PM

I am confused. Does this mean you can't logon using your laptop?

I guess we would have to use the "physical token". Whatever that is.

DLax85 01-08-2016 05:06 PM

Cyber security gone wild!

What's the risk?

What's the cost?

How many breaches of security have they had from pilot accounts?

Does this mean my buddies wife can't long on anymore and trip trade for him???

Sheesh!

MD11FLYER 01-08-2016 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2043022)
I don't think you read the article.

We'll have to use a code-generating app on a smart phone to log on.

So you'll need a) a smart phone, and b) cell service. I'm guessing.

Huck your right I didn't read the whole article... I read the title and skimmed the rest now I'm scratching my head at this "token"

USMCFDX 01-08-2016 05:20 PM

Same process as Google Authenticator for Gmail. There is no internet connection required to get the passcode via your app. The app generates the number and through the magic of computers the website knows what code is currently being generated for you.

Your Gmail account is much more secure if you use this process. The password storage app LastPass also can use the same type of security and I highly recommend the app.

Sluggo_63 01-08-2016 05:53 PM

I agree. This is a good thing, and will be better than the grid. A token is a key-fob sized device that will display the 6 (?) generated digits on an LCD screen that you will have to type into VIPS to get access. The UPS use this kind of system.

I also concur with the Google authenticator. It's a great way to improve your email security.

busdriver12 01-08-2016 08:29 PM

Actually, now that I think of it, I'm afraid they're going to f... this up. That's what happens every time there's some sort of technical change, and this is one that has a major effect. I can just see it, we won't be able to logon to our computers, but hey, we can just do it all on our (non company provided) cell phones, right? LMS, download the bidpack and bid our 150 lines, no problem.

God forbid if you lose your cellphone, or want to log on to another computer when you don't happen to have your "token" on you. As if people are always going to carry their token around.They're gonna lock security down so tight, we won't even be able to get onto VIPS. Not like security was actually a problem, was it? What about FxCal? I foresee the usual screwed up mess every time they change things.

Huck 01-08-2016 09:10 PM

It's a solution looking for a problem....

FrontSeat 01-08-2016 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by MD11FLYER (Post 2043011)
Amen and good bye!!!!

what company?

FlyHIGHgoFAST 01-09-2016 03:25 AM

You'll have to use your personal-non company issued cellphone for company use or will you be able to put it on the iPad?

DLax85 01-09-2016 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2043204)
It's a solution looking for a problem....

.....,Exactly!

KnightFlyer 01-09-2016 06:00 AM

Finally getting rid of it. We're the only employee group using e-grid.

MaydayMark 01-09-2016 07:36 AM

Goodbye egrid! Don't let the door kit you in the *ss on the way out!

It was a lousy system, glad to see it go. My guess is that even Management disliked it and wanted to see what we would "trade" to get rid of it?

Now that Contract Negotiations are over it no longer has value. Once the System gets over it's normal growing pains (that seems to come with EVERY software "security improvement"?) maybe we'll be better off.

I hope so!*?


:eek:

appDude 01-09-2016 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 2043082)
... Does this mean my buddies wife can't long on anymore and trip trade for him??? ...

This is GOOD thing. Levels the playing field for those of us who do not do this. One less tool in the Wolfpack toolshed!!!

fdx727pilot 01-09-2016 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by KnightFlyer (Post 2043307)
Finally getting rid of it. We're the only employee group using e-grid.

My wife, who until recently worked for the company, used an egrid while working in both crew data and training scheduling. It was used by any employee needing outside access to the Fedex intranet (VPN.)

Magenta Line 01-09-2016 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by appDude (Post 2043414)
This is GOOD thing. Levels the playing field for those of us who do not do this. One less tool in the Wolfpack toolshed!!!

I was thinking the same thing! Even the earlier CAPCHA code was easy to rig since it stayed in the same place on the same page.

An old flame used one of these with her work in the telecommunications field and it was pretty neat but it WAS yet again another thing to keep up with.

I'm not quite sure how I'm going to use it: I really don't want any company stuff on my personal smartphone but I also don't want to keep up with this number thingy.

The Walrus 01-09-2016 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Magenta Line (Post 2043844)
I was thinking the same thing! Even the earlier CAPCHA code was easy to rig since it stayed in the same place on the same page.

An old flame used one of these with her work in the telecommunications field and it was pretty neat but it WAS yet again another thing to keep up with.

I'm not quite sure how I'm going to use it: I really don't want any company stuff on my personal smartphone but I also don't want to keep up with this number thingy.

Just curious, but why would one care if they had this app on their personal phone?

busdriver12 01-09-2016 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 2043856)
Just curious, but why would one care if they had this app on their personal phone?

With all the tracking and things they put into apps nowadays, I can see being creeped out by having to install s company app on our personal phone.

So they are going to issue us company phones for this, right?

The Walrus 01-09-2016 08:12 PM

As far as I can tell, it will not be a company app.

FDXLAG 01-10-2016 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 2043871)
As far as I can tell, it will not be a company app.

Which probably means Mrs Wolfpack can load the app on her phone and trip trade just as easily.

MaydayMark 01-11-2016 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2043859)
With all the tracking and things they put into apps nowadays, I can see being creeped out by having to install s company app on our personal phone.

So they are going to issue us company phones for this, right?


Am I required to have a phone? Why can't I provide a pager number if I'm on Reserve? I can call FedEx from my hotel room, satcom or the ramp!


:eek:


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