FDX wet leasing through 29 May
01-26-2016, 01:57 PM
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FDX wet leasing through 29 May
So, for guys/gals who've been here a while, have you ever seen wet leasing extended into the summer?
I was planning on escaping the cold with some BOG/PTY/SJO layovers this winter. What gives???
Why aren't the wet lease a/c taking GTF, FSD, FNT???
For the MadDog, doesn't management know that some of our guys have families to visit down in VCP? They haven't seen them since before Xmas!
I was planning on escaping the cold with some BOG/PTY/SJO layovers this winter. What gives???
Why aren't the wet lease a/c taking GTF, FSD, FNT??? For the MadDog, doesn't management know that some of our guys have families to visit down in VCP? They haven't seen them since before Xmas!
01-26-2016, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
So, for guys/gals who've been here a while, have you ever seen wet leasing extended into the summer?
I was planning on escaping the cold with some BOG/PTY/SJO layovers this winter. What gives??? Why aren't the wet lease a/c taking GTF, FSD, FNT???
I was planning on escaping the cold with some BOG/PTY/SJO layovers this winter. What gives???
Why aren't the wet lease a/c taking GTF, FSD, FNT???
Originally Posted by CloudSailor
For the MadDog, doesn't management know that some of our guys have families to visit down in VCP? They haven't seen them since before Xmas!
Though it makes you wonder if we're going to see a big a$$ wet leasing check. At least the union promised to give it to the pilots this time.
01-26-2016, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
For the MadDog, doesn't management know that some of our guys have families to visit down in VCP? They haven't seen them since before Xmas!
You could get yourself in trouble with this one my friend.
But that was funny...
01-26-2016, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
Hey, they can keep Bogota, but what's wrong with Flint? It's such a lovely area, and it's very exciting ducking bullets, plus the water has such a beautiful yellow orange tint. It's so good for your health
Oh, you troublemaker, you've done it now!
Though it makes you wonder if we're going to see a big a$$ wet leasing check. At least the union promised to give it to the pilots this time.
Oh, you troublemaker, you've done it now!
Though it makes you wonder if we're going to see a big a$$ wet leasing check. At least the union promised to give it to the pilots this time.
01-26-2016, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
I am so confused...
However, that is my normal state of mind
However, that is my normal state of mind
01-26-2016, 10:06 PM
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Lots of angst here. If you are concerned about your scope payout, contact your block rep. I am willing to be you that you will get 100% or close to it this time....I don't think they will consider any other option after the political fallout last time.
I really wonder why this pilot group is so quick to shoot at the guys on the same team. I saw enough *(&% 767 schoolhouse LCAs out here in Asia on draft during negotiations...wondering what the union was doing on negotiations. The truth is the pilots flying those draft trips were doing most of the negotiating...they just don't realize it or don't care. ALPA is us.... Many in this pilot group will lick the hand of management hoping for a good deal then snap at the team that fights and grieves for the crew force. Be a professional, and do a good job for your profession and your employer. I can wear purple and am proud to be here. But remember when both sides sit down to dicker about the money, who is actually lobbying for you. Some here seem to delight in rooting against their own team. I don't get it... If you aren't satisfied, throw your hand in the air and your hat in the ring and go get involved. I did--and it opened my eyes to how many pilots and how many resources are being used to help on our side.
My snapshot: A union volunteer was trying to get all of us in HKG our calendars. He offered to meet us at a local place in D-bay, or leave them for us in our lockers at CAN on his next trip through. I actually heard these comments from some in the peanut gallery... "...can't believe the union is too cheap to just mail them to us..." and "....these got out late..." If anyone ever has to face a TRB or sit at the table to explain an incident or event, then they will appreciate some of the infrastructure that is behind the scenes. I like my calendar, appreciate the heck out of SL and the team that puts them together, and was grateful we had an FO willing to hand them out. I am surprised at times we get anyone to help considering the high level of cynicism and venom directed at some. And yeah....I threw venom out a few years ago too....but then I ran for rep and spent a few years doing committee work.
I am looking forward to my scope check. I am patient, however, and suspect the "bill" to the company is still being calculated. The scary part to me is not the loss of the stuff we gave up temporarily, but the trips that are no longer in our bid pack at all...like Hilo, Cebu PI, Santiago Chile, and Buenes Aries. The South American flying was interesting, beautiful (Southern Cross!), and was some of the more enjoyable flying I got to do in the -11. I hope it comes back.
I really wonder why this pilot group is so quick to shoot at the guys on the same team. I saw enough *(&% 767 schoolhouse LCAs out here in Asia on draft during negotiations...wondering what the union was doing on negotiations. The truth is the pilots flying those draft trips were doing most of the negotiating...they just don't realize it or don't care. ALPA is us.... Many in this pilot group will lick the hand of management hoping for a good deal then snap at the team that fights and grieves for the crew force. Be a professional, and do a good job for your profession and your employer. I can wear purple and am proud to be here. But remember when both sides sit down to dicker about the money, who is actually lobbying for you. Some here seem to delight in rooting against their own team. I don't get it... If you aren't satisfied, throw your hand in the air and your hat in the ring and go get involved. I did--and it opened my eyes to how many pilots and how many resources are being used to help on our side.
My snapshot: A union volunteer was trying to get all of us in HKG our calendars. He offered to meet us at a local place in D-bay, or leave them for us in our lockers at CAN on his next trip through. I actually heard these comments from some in the peanut gallery... "...can't believe the union is too cheap to just mail them to us..." and "....these got out late..." If anyone ever has to face a TRB or sit at the table to explain an incident or event, then they will appreciate some of the infrastructure that is behind the scenes. I like my calendar, appreciate the heck out of SL and the team that puts them together, and was grateful we had an FO willing to hand them out. I am surprised at times we get anyone to help considering the high level of cynicism and venom directed at some. And yeah....I threw venom out a few years ago too....but then I ran for rep and spent a few years doing committee work.
I am looking forward to my scope check. I am patient, however, and suspect the "bill" to the company is still being calculated. The scary part to me is not the loss of the stuff we gave up temporarily, but the trips that are no longer in our bid pack at all...like Hilo, Cebu PI, Santiago Chile, and Buenes Aries. The South American flying was interesting, beautiful (Southern Cross!), and was some of the more enjoyable flying I got to do in the -11. I hope it comes back.
01-26-2016, 11:17 PM
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[QUOTE=Albief15;2056386]Lots of angst here. If you are concerned about your scope payout, contact your block rep. I am willing to be you that you will get 100% or close to it this time....I don't think they will consider any other option after the political fallout last time.
You got yours and you have pretty much said that. That's fine. We all get what we vote for. I have YET to see any Union leadership pay out any funds more than they have to or would want to. After 20yrs at FedEx I have absolute zero trust in the Union. 3 Contracts and 3 failed attempts at progression. Yep, I'll be labeled as bitter but the guys I'm flying with on the line are either lying that they are happy with the contract or not telling the truth. Albie, you have a business and make money off of this. Say it isn't so, but you are here a lot and I wonder what your true goals are.
So I expect nothing in this company or contract. What we have now is what guys are going to live with for not just 6yrs but 8-10. But my days of believing that we can work together are gone. When my own leadership sells me short, why should I fight the big fight? Sorry guys but its all for one after this sell out. And guys like Albie continually posting when they have a vested interest in pilot hiring via his company make me wonder why anyone would believe him.
You got yours and you have pretty much said that. That's fine. We all get what we vote for. I have YET to see any Union leadership pay out any funds more than they have to or would want to. After 20yrs at FedEx I have absolute zero trust in the Union. 3 Contracts and 3 failed attempts at progression. Yep, I'll be labeled as bitter but the guys I'm flying with on the line are either lying that they are happy with the contract or not telling the truth. Albie, you have a business and make money off of this. Say it isn't so, but you are here a lot and I wonder what your true goals are.
So I expect nothing in this company or contract. What we have now is what guys are going to live with for not just 6yrs but 8-10. But my days of believing that we can work together are gone. When my own leadership sells me short, why should I fight the big fight? Sorry guys but its all for one after this sell out. And guys like Albie continually posting when they have a vested interest in pilot hiring via his company make me wonder why anyone would believe him.
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