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Braniff DC8 01-31-2016 07:33 PM

Is Western having a bid? After Braniff shutdown I've been an FE on the 737 in LAX for a while. The 10 panel in SLC is going junior but want a right seat. We just parked the 707/720s so the flush bid will be massive. God, I hope we merge with Delta someday!

Busboy 01-31-2016 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 2060208)
Is Western having a bid? After Braniff shutdown I've been an FE on the 737 in LAX for a while. The 10 panel in SLC is going junior but want a right seat. We just parked the 707/720s so the flush bid will be massive. God, I hope we merge with Delta someday!

Wouldn't that merger be something? Probably go DOH. If not, your merger committee can always take it to arbitration. They know that, right?:rolleyes:

TonyC 01-31-2016 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Perm11FO (Post 2060026)

The Western Airlines post that TonyC shared is the proverbial "putting lipstick on a pig" IMHO....


Are you hatin' on Western GLOBAL specifically, or MD-11s in general?

I'll bet Western Global has some numbers to back up their claims. What do you have?



Have you noticed the new fleet of ULDs (cans) around Memphis? All those shiny new aluminum boxes were acquired specifically for the B-767. They're AADs, and they conform perfectly to the upper deck of the B-767.

The MD-11 uses AMJs. Except for one corner, they're a big cube. On the MD-11, they leave room along the side to walk from the aft to the front and back, and they leave room on the top for a fire suppression system.

The AADs leave about 4 inches around the contours -- not enough room for anything.

And here's the thing. While the AMJs hold about 590.3 cubic feet of freight, the smaller AADs only hold about 502 cubic feet. Since we usually bulk out before we hit weight limits, that's a significant loss of capability. And it doesn't end on the main deck.

The MD-11 carries half-width ULDs, LD3s, which carry about 159 cubic feet of freight, and full width LD6s, which carry about 316 cubic feet of freight. The B-767 carries LD2s and LD8s, which carry about 120 and 243 cubic feet of freight respectively. Every can on the B-767 carries less than the corresponding can on the MD-11.

How efficient are two engines if you're leaving freight on the ramp?


Take a look at FedEx's Charter Website -- they don't even list the B-767 as a player. FedEx Express Container Guide





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Waldorf 01-31-2016 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 2060224)
Wouldn't that merger be something? Probably go DOH. If not, your merger committee can always take it to arbitration. They know that, right?:rolleyes:

Its being discussed on the Majors thread already.:)

Waldorf 01-31-2016 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=TonyC;2060237]Are you hatin' on Western GLOBAL specifically, or MD-11s in general?

I'll bet Western Global has some numbers to back up their claims. What do you have?



Have you noticed the new fleet of ULDs (cans) around Memphis? All those shiny new aluminum boxes were acquired specifically for the B-767. They're AADs, and they conform perfectly to the upper deck of the B-767.

OMG, FedEx bought the wrong cans!:) So are you saying what?

Hawk 285 02-01-2016 12:51 AM

[QUOTE=Waldorf;2060240]

Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2060237)

OMG, FedEx bought the wrong cans!:) So are you saying what?

He hates these cans!!!

AnyMouse 02-01-2016 03:47 AM

[QUOTE=Hawk 285;2060267]

Originally Posted by Waldorf (Post 2060240)

He hates these cans!!!

TonyC heard that the cans were YES voters, I'm guessing.

HDawg 02-01-2016 04:04 AM

I bet those new cans flew draft.

FrankTheTank 02-01-2016 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by HDawg (Post 2060295)
I bet those new cans flew draft.

Only if they checked in 18 hours earlier.

TonyC 02-01-2016 07:47 AM

My mistake, I guess I packed too much information into one post. I guess I should have just repeated a tired cliché instead.






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