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Old 01-28-2016, 01:23 PM
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I had 72 hrs of MUD dropped from my MUD bank. I asked payroll and was told that DSA and MUD can not exceed 686. I can not find in the contract where it says when DSA and MUD exceed 686, the overage is dropped from your MUD. I always thought that what ever MUD you had was your to make up during the life of your career. Now it looks like I've lost 72hrs of MUD because the MUD and DSA exceed 686. This is not a DSA situation of the extra hours being put into my 401k and then any extra being paid directly to me, it looks like a straight loss of 72hrs? Any thoughts? I read the contract and I can't see any part where it says MUD is just dropped without compensation.
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I had 72 hrs of MUD dropped from my MUD bank. I asked payroll and was told that DSA and MUD can not exceed 686. I can not find in the contract where it says when DSA and MUD exceed 686, the overage is dropped from your MUD. I always thought that what ever MUD you had was your to make up during the life of your career. Now it looks like I've lost 72hrs of MUD because the MUD and DSA exceed 686. This is not a DSA situation of the extra hours being put into my 401k and then any extra being paid directly to me, it looks like a straight loss of 72hrs? Any thoughts? I read the contract and I can't see any part where it says MUD is just dropped without compensation.
Did you receive the check for those 72 hours per CBA and FCIF? Or did you exceed the $53k Max or something?
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Goes into your 401k account tomorrow.
The 29th Jan I believe.
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I had 72 hrs of MUD dropped from my MUD bank. I asked payroll and was told that DSA and MUD can not exceed 686. I can not find in the contract where it says when DSA and MUD exceed 686, the overage is dropped from your MUD. I always thought that what ever MUD you had was your to make up during the life of your career. Now it looks like I've lost 72hrs of MUD because the MUD and DSA exceed 686. This is not a DSA situation of the extra hours being put into my 401k and then any extra being paid directly to me, it looks like a straight loss of 72hrs? Any thoughts? I read the contract and I can't see any part where it says MUD is just dropped without compensation.
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Old 01-31-2016, 08:27 AM
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I think it can't be spelled out in more plain English, but here you go:

Section 14.D.1 - "The disability sick account ceiling shall be 686 CH."

Section 14.E - "..... the number of hours remaining in each pilot's regular sick account shall be added to the existing balance in that pilot's disability sick account subject to the account ceiling. If the addition of these hours would cause the balance of the pilot's disability sick account to exceed the disability sick account ceiling, the value of the excess hours shall be deposited into the pilot's Employer Contribution Unused Sick Leave Account within the Federal Express Corporation Profit Sharing Plan....."

Language did not change in new contract.
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This is a good problem to have and he doesn't know it.
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It appears some of you are saying that if your MUD and DSA are greater than 686 you will get paid for the excess. I do not believe that is the case. I too had hours removed from Mud account to balance the total to 686.
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It rolls into your vanguard acct.
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:15 AM
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It rolls into your vanguard acct.
So I have 500 hours of MUD and 286 hours of DSA and you are saying they add to my vanguard? I don't think so, that would mean essentially everyone over 15 years gets it.
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RSA + DSA > 686 goes into Vanguard. MUD are simply hours you've used that are "eligible" for make up to get your account up to 686. If MUD puts you over 686, MUD gets reduced by the amount over.
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I misread the op's original question. You are right.
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