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viperdriver 06-15-2016 04:08 PM

Maintenance delay
 
When crs calls and says your jet is down just stay in your hotel and we will call you what should your pairing look like? Seems like I am hotel standby with no pay or duty limits. Shouldn't they build a hotel standby? It's a domestic pairing.

FDXLAG 06-15-2016 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 2145685)
When crs calls and says your jet is down just stay in your hotel and we will call you what should your pairing look like? Seems like I am hotel standby with no pay or duty limits. Shouldn't they build a hotel standby? It's a domestic pairing.

Inform them when you think you went on duty and when you will be off. if they don't like it they can fix your pairing. I have done this.

Raptor 06-15-2016 06:27 PM

You won't get an extra duty period or standby added in cases like this. What you will get if you ask is a STSHOW or one of those related variations. That shows your duty day has started so they can't call you 6 hours into the wait and expect a full duty day left.

kronan 06-16-2016 03:35 AM

You won't get Standby Disruption pay, but you absolutely will get extra duty period pay if your trip winds up with Extra duty periods. But you'll only get that extra duty period pay if CRS actually puts a duty of some sort in the pairing while you're waiting for the plane to be fixed

And possibly trigger extra pay/sub decisions depending upon the delay.

Raptor 06-16-2016 05:58 AM

Of course you'll get extra duty period pay IF you have extra duty periods added to your pairing. But, making an inference from the OP I envision the situation as: told to stay at hotel as plane is broken and then called 6 hours later that it's fixed and transportation is on its way.

In this case (I've personally experienced variations of the above 3 times) you don't get an EXTRA period, you simply get a STSHOW or similar designator which simply starts your duty time within that duty period. I've checked it out with CE, with CRS manager, and with DO and asked to have legal weigh in. Everyone agreed that no extra duty period happened for this situation.

Now, if plane isn't fixed within the duty limits, and you are RELEASED back to rest, then different story.

I use the "beer test". If I'm legal to have a beer, I should probably get an extra duty period, if I'm not able to have a beer, then my duty clock is running.

cwjflyer20 06-16-2016 09:30 AM

Who answers the phone?

Never do this. Its never good news.

FDXLAG 06-16-2016 09:35 AM

If they don't put a showtime on your schedule you are never legal to have a beer.

pipe 06-22-2016 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 2146142)
If they don't put a showtime on your schedule you are never legal to have a beer.

Completely disagree. Without a showtime, you are always legal to have a beer.

Pipe

FDXLAG 06-22-2016 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by pipe (Post 2149460)
Completely disagree. Without a showtime, you are always legal to have a beer.

Pipe

Get back to the OP, after he took the call from scheduling should he have cracked the minbar.

Laughing_Jakal 06-23-2016 08:12 AM

Nice to see someone was considerate enough to call them while they were still at the hotel.


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