dckozak

I think ClassActionALPA is a law clerk at this law firm, working to drum up business. I'm sure we have pilots behind this, but these messages don't read like a pilot, they read more like an english major working on their law degree.
I'm raising the BS flag on ClassActionALPA. I don't think the author of this dribble is even a pilot. Just a another hourly paid troll working for a sleazy law firm.

busdriver12

I agree these messages do not read like a pilot at all. However, I'm not sure that has been represented, except for talking about, "we".

ClassActionALPA

dckozak and busdriver12:

Why don't you reveal your real names and if you are FedEx pilots?

Sluggo_63

Well, that sure was a telling sign.

Nitefrater

I think he is a pilot. I think he's the same pilot as the poster on JetFlyers. His posts read like something his lawyers are telling him to say, or are at least vetted by the lawyers, and the same precise (approved) verbiage shows up again and again. e.g. Note the repeated insistence that in the past, ALPA dues have not INCREASED as a result of DFR lawsuits... which is NOT the same thing as saying that dues monies have not been USED in defending against DFR lawsuits, nor in paying settlements. This smells of lawyerspeak.

Make no mistake... this lawsuit is costing you dues money regardless of how the verdict plays out. In that sense, it's a lawsuit aimed at every dues paying ALPA member.

busdriver12

After over 1500 posts, I'll let the FedEx pilots on here decide whether or not I'm one of them. I also have no problem with non FedEx pilots posting on this forum, though I don't think they should represent themselves as such. And this is an anonymous forum, most people choose not to reveal their real names so they can more speak more freely. Why would you care?

ClassActionALPA

Nitefrater,

You're correct, ALPA does have an insurance policy for Duty of Fair Representation. You're correct, dues have never gone up and there never has been an assessment for lawsuits against ALPA.

ALPA has before and currently is being sued outside of the FedEx lawsuit for Duty of Fair representation (DFR). Continental pilots have a current DFR lawsuit against ALPA filed in 2014:

Former Continental Pilots File Class-Action Lawsuit - AZA Law

So I ask you, just let FDX ALPA squander our dues (of which we pay almost $20 million a year to ALPA), run us out of money and the MEC is unaware of this, never access ALPA's "war chest" (Major Contingency Fund) to which our dues contribute, misrepresent the TA in order to get it to pass... our retirement proposals are "affordable" for over almost 5 years of messages from the NC and MEC Chairman, then "over night" they are not... stating it will take "years" to get another TA if we rejected the 2015 TA?

Have you listened to the recent FDX MEC/NC videos?

We believe in standing up for rule of law, not just "sweeping the dirt under the rug".

You can continue to try to undermine this with your statements, but I would suggest you write your comments to the former TWA pilots and to the Continental pilots and get their opinions also.

Lawsuits are holding the other party accountable. They have occurred for centuries and are nothing new. We are standing up for what's right and will continue to do so. We have support for this lawsuit, and if ALPA National has to pay its attorneys to defend against it, well that is the result of accountability for actions.

ClassActionALPA

busdriver12,

We are standing behind what we post. You know ClassActionALPA is from the 4 named plaintiffs. You verified that you are a FedEx pilot.

We want to get the information out to other FedEx pilots, and this forum is also used by other members who have identified themselves.

Nitefrater

1) I didn't say that ALPA had insurance for DFR suits. You did.

2) I didn't say that "dues have never gone up and there never has been an assessment for lawsuits against ALPA". You did. What I did say is that ALPA dues are used in defense against DFR lawsuits, and in payment of any settlements. You don't refute this, just repeat your talking points. As I pointed out, the two statements do not mean the same thing.

"ALPA National" isn't going to pay the lawyers, the line pilot will, just as they pay for everything else ALPA does. (I'm guessing that you believe that the government pays for things too, instead of the taxpayers). And if they do contribute to your cause, they're paying for the lawyers on both sides. No problem there, should someone make an informed decision to do so; Fred does it all the time with political contributions. Just be honest enough to put down your lawyer's talking points and admit it.

Argue your case on it's merits, just don't try to "sell" it to the crew force as if they won't pay for it whether you win or not. After all, isn't just such a "sell job" a primary basis of your lawsuit?

OOOhhhhh, Irony!

dckozak

Well you pretty much answered that question. The troll is reveiled