FDXLAG

Because a $100 million increase in total A Plan costs benefitting 30% of the pilots wouldn't cost the other 70% of the pilots anything, FDX will just pass it along to the stockholders.

Busboy

Wow! Why didn't you save us(ALPA) the money and just hand over your costing model before we hired someone to look at it, 6 months after negotiations?

Obviously, you haven't noticed...FDX passes on increased costs to the customers. And, if you put those numbers into your costing model...I think you'd find that our customer's costs have grown faster annually, than the pilot's compensation package.

But, the same can not be said for our executive compensation packages or our shareholder's dividend increases. They have far outpaced the customer's cost increases.

busdriver12

I have no confidence that going to 30 years would end up giving people 60% at retirement, as opposed to making you work 30 years just to get the 50%.

FDX1

It sounded like an example to me. Now that they have the "model" to cost, they can plug in whatever they want. Seems he could have said any number of examples.

Wouldn't take it out of context with the bigger picture of evaluating FedEx's cost to change the A-Plan.

FDXLAG

My numbers were obviously wags to make the point that nothing you give to one group of FDX pilots does not come without expense to other FDX pilots. I know you disagree, all the little something extras for the pre-1999 hires in contract 2006 were bonuses thrown in for the heck of it by management.

Busboy

Yes, improvements to our contract cost more. No one is disputing that. But, you see, I wanted a BIGGER piece of the pie than they offered! And, I was willing to fight for it. That's what it takes. Standing up and kicking the sand from the line they drew. That's what other pilot groups have done throughout history, to get us to where we are. We have done nothing but ride their coat tails. People with your attitude are the reason our slice is shrinking, relative to the increasing size of the FDX pie. All the while, the shareholders and executive management are making enormous gains.

So, like self prophecy, now that we are not in Sec 6 negotiations...You're right. We won't be negotiating for a larger slice. Just shifting the filling around.

Rant complete...Have a nice day.

FDXLAG

I have self fulfilling prophecies and you have never fulfilling prophecies. If only we have voted no we would have gotten more. It takes more than a vote it takes a willingness to walk the walk. That we didn't have. You have a swell day too.

golfandfly

Great post, I agree 100%...

Check 6

LAG,

I respect your opinion and your thought out responses. At least you generally defend yourself on why you like the contract.

But I have to disagree with your words above. Almost every yes voter that I have talked with has almost no reason to vote YES other than the thought of what "others" would do. THEY would have walked, but somehow "others" wouldn't so they had to vote yes.

I was and am willing to do what it would have taken to get a contract I deserve. I was ready. I voted on the merits of the contract (as I saw it) not on how "others" would or wouldn't support me.

I truly believe that if the majority had voted simply on the merits and NOT on what THEY thought "others" would do it would have been overwhelmingly defeated.

Maybe unity is simply not being scared of the "others"

trashhauler

The problem with your statement above check is that a lot people who voted yes went on deeds not what they thought the other person was going to vote. What do I mean by that? I talked with several vehement no guys and then I looked at their schedule. They averaged 8 days a month off, month after month. The excuses I always got was, my kid this, my wife that, you get the picture. Then there is history. In the 21 years I've been here, I've seen a pilot group that is very selfish and yes, greedy. It is what it is, but I took that into account when I voted yes. I do believe that we actually had some real leverage this time around, but I wasn't confident that this pilot group would take advantage of it. This is just my opinion based on what I've seen over my 21 years here. Besides, that wasn't the only reason I voted yes. Was the contract perfect,of course not. Except for retirement, I thought it was a descent contract. I've moved on, anything else is a waste of time in my opinion!