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Old 01-11-2017, 12:23 PM
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So what up with all this Propaganda and PR stuff...if they were the type of people that would do this to say thanks this would be normal stuff but out of the blue and writing about it seems fake as sh!t to me.

And to top it off they might do it again next Christmas Eve! Hold my paycheck and clear the calendar for 2017.
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There's the spirit.
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You're a foul one. Mr. grinch.
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Everyone on the ramp that works a holiday gets time and a half.

We don't.

I have told the union, repeatedly, that we should have holiday pay, draft pay, or whatever you want to call it for any trip that touches any day that we are required to produced a doctor's note for calling in sick.

"My" negotiating committee didn't listen.

"My" negotiating committee didn't think it was a high priority to throw the junior guys a bone.

"My" union needs to pay more attention, and listen to the junior guys once in a while.

Show me the money, and I'll buy my own cookies.
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Everyone on the ramp that works a holiday gets time and a half.

We don't.

I have told the union, repeatedly, that we should have holiday pay, draft pay, or whatever you want to call it for any trip that touches any day that we are required to produced a doctor's note for calling in sick.

"My" negotiating committee didn't listen.

"My" negotiating committee didn't think it was a high priority to throw the junior guys a bone.

"My" union needs to pay more attention, and listen to the junior guys once in a while.

Show me the money, and I'll buy my own cookies.
The guy that makes $300 grand a year is jealous of the guy that barely breaks minimum wage X 1.5. My god! What a country!
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The guy who makes $300K a year shouldn't have to provide a doctor's note when he calls in sick.
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Personally I would prefer management ignore the pilots during peak and offer cookies, $100 bills, or whatever it took to get the rampers to show up every night. We are not the reason the launch was 2 hours late every day in Indy. Keep your day old shrimp, just get the jet loaded.
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I had a Christmas Eve departure. Although the sort was projected to be late, we went to the jet pretty close to on time. When we arrived, it was already loaded. As I walked into the cabin, the ramp agent and a supervisor were waiting, and they explained how they were thanking the pilots with bags of cookies. The red paper sacks had a festive note attached, and the rampers were excited about giving us the cookies, and they wanted to take pictures of them giving us cookies. I wouldn't have thought for a second to insult them by refusing their offer -- they're hard-working employees at the bottom of their food chain just like we are. And guess what, they were working on Christmas Eve, too. They had worked hard to get us out on time, to boot.

I only asked that they take the picture with the much better looking First Officer when he finished his walk-around. They were almost giddy with anticipation, and it was a kick for the FO. (That's him in the picture on the right. He's a 5 million guy.)

Overall, I took it as a nice gesture in the Christmas spirit. Perhaps someone at a senior management level had other intentions (it would have been Ground Operations management, not Flight Management, anyway), but from a couple of grunts in the trenches to another couple of grunts in the trenches, I appreciated the gesture.






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I had a Christmas Eve departure. Although the sort was projected to be late, we went to the jet pretty close to on time. When we arrived, it was already loaded. As I walked into the cabin, the ramp agent and a supervisor were waiting, and they explained how they were thanking the pilots with bags of cookies. The red paper sacks had a festive note attached, and the rampers were excited about giving us the cookies, and they wanted to take pictures of them giving us cookies. I wouldn't have thought for a second to insult them by refusing their offer -- they're hard-working employees at the bottom of their food chain just like we are. And guess what, they were working on Christmas Eve, too. They had worked hard to get us out on time, to boot.

I only asked that they take the picture with the much better looking First Officer when he finished his walk-around. They were almost giddy with anticipation, and it was a kick for the FO. (That's him in the picture on the right. He's a 5 million guy.)

Overall, I took it as a nice gesture in the Christmas spirit. Perhaps someone at a senior management level had other intentions (it would have been Ground Operations management, not Flight Management, anyway), but from a couple of grunts in the trenches to another couple of grunts in the trenches, I appreciated the gesture.






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Old 01-12-2017, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigWatchPilot View Post
So what up with all this Propaganda and PR stuff...if they were the type of people that would do this to say thanks this would be normal stuff but out of the blue and writing about it seems fake as sh!t to me.

And to top it off they might do it again next Christmas Eve! Hold my paycheck and clear the calendar for 2017.
I'm taking this "propaganda and PR stuff" as a sign of change from the new VP, TL. He came from SWA which has this kind of stuff sewn into their corporate psyche.
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