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5Million 01-15-2017 06:57 AM

Deviation Question
 
Can I claim a deviation ticket within 3 days of the end of a trip between two unrelated cities? (For example, Trip ends in ATW, Jumpseat back, then buy a ticket between DFW-ATL 2.5 days later, where ATL is home) I suspect the answer is no, but the wording in 8.C.4.e says "...and must proceed TO the intended destination of the deviation..." it doesn't say anything about originating in the intended destination.
I deviate a lot of trips on the back end that go home instead of Mem. None of them "proceed to the intended destination."

dckozak 01-15-2017 07:56 AM

Yes. This is a common type of deviation. Trip ends with a DH, you go home, not to domicile. As noted, be careful how long you wait, I believe you are right in having three days, but I'll let someone else reconfirm. I'm fairly certain it is no longer than three days.

Lambo 01-15-2017 07:57 AM

I have done that in the past with no problems.

hyperone 01-15-2017 09:15 AM

5million, yes you are allowed to do that. I too have done this numerous times. I often jumpseat down to Houston to visit my folks, stay a day, and then use a ticket to fly home from there.
BTW, the "travel within 3 days" in the contract has been interpreted by crew travel audit to mean 3 CALENDAR days, not 72 hours from the end of your trip.
But, like all questions that involve deadheading legalities and monies, when in doubt, ask crew travel audit and contract enforcement. DO NOT depend on advice from these boards to make decisions that involve legalities with the company.

5Million 01-15-2017 12:06 PM

Thanks fellas!

RogAir 01-19-2017 04:34 PM

Slight hijack.

I want to expense ground transportation from home to Fedex facility then jumpseat to Memphis (domicile) for recurrent training (CLOE). Is this an allowable expense? I do it all the time for trips, R days...but what about recurrent training?
8.C.4.e says "within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. Scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day)
Is recurrent a "scheduled assignment "? Anyone have any experience?

Fdxlag2 01-19-2017 05:17 PM

Yes. Essentially if it is on your calendar you can expense a legitimate travel expense to get to the activity. Outside of your base of course.

PostalAV8B 01-19-2017 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fdxlag2 (Post 2284688)
Yes. Essentially if it is on your calendar you can expense a legitimate travel expense to get to the activity. Outside of your base of course.

Is that a taxable event since it is not a deviation and you are traveling to your base?

Fdxlag2 01-20-2017 04:57 AM

I select yes.

RogAir 01-20-2017 11:48 AM

I've heard it is correct to select "no" on the GT because it's between home and Fedex facility (not domicile). If you GT to pax airport and Pax DH on paid ticket then it's "no"(GT) "yes" (ticket)

TonyC 01-20-2017 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by RogAir (Post 2285169)

I've heard it is correct to select "no" on the GT because it's between home and Fedex facility (not domicile). If you GT to pax airport and Pax DH on paid ticket then it's "no"(GT) "yes" (ticket)


Interesting way to split the hair.

If you had an intermediate stop or two, would you only count the last leg as taxable?






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RogAir 01-20-2017 06:38 PM

Hmm. Without further investigation I would probably say if I did a two-leg Commercial DH on a single ticket I would claim both legs as taxable. If I stopped in the middle for a layover (visit family), I would say neither leg taxable..Clear as mud.

BlueMoon 01-26-2017 05:56 PM

Another question.

If I'm removed from a trip due to legality (duty day was going to be too long), what happens to the DH bank for the trip ? Do you lose it? Does it matter if I had already deviated the trip? (I canceled the deviation ticket once I found I was off the trip).

Been looking in the contract and on insite.

Overnitefr8 01-26-2017 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 2288986)
Another question.

If I'm removed from a trip due to legality (duty day was going to be too long), what happens to the DH bank for the trip ? Do you lose it? Does it matter if I had already deviated the trip? (I canceled the deviation ticket once I found I was off the trip).

Been looking in the contract and on insite.

If the company takes you off the trip, you keep the bank. If you take yourself off the trip (e.g. pdo bump with another line pilot), you lose the bank.

BlueMoon 01-26-2017 06:26 PM

Thank you very much

kronan 01-28-2017 05:49 PM

Depending upon when you start working on your expense report, trip might or might not be in there.
(eg if you're a wait until a few weeks after the end of the month to start working on it the computer might not be accurate)

At the top left of the expense report there is a tab titled something like ADD Bank. Simply click on it and provide the trip number and it should autofill the info.
Or manually add it if need be.
(One of the great reasons to use FX Cal or BidX is they will have "screen" captures for you assuming you update your trips at some point in the month)

Been awhile since one's been missing for me, but I do occasionally see incorrect fare data in the FOX system.


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