Jetlife

Well I don’t know what a fuel bonus is. I’m assuming he means something like Atlantic rewards.

I don’t consider profit sharing at my company as income. It varies year to year so I can’t rely on it as an absolute. Doesn’t mean it’s not a good thing. Of course we all want a bonus, per diem, tips etc. it shouldn’t be included in first year salary numbers. Heck it shouldn’t be included in salary ever.

bjtdrvr

His description is very accurate but year one FO's get 309 a day if you're on the PBS schedule. 42000 may have been his take home. Also on the PBS it is 13 bid periods not 12 so you can be worked up to 208 days a year.

Fredturbo

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David Puddy

With 18 years of experience, you should have good options available to you. I would HIGHLY recommend you attend a job fair and network hard with airlines of interest. All of the majors will be hiring for the next 10 years and your experience will be valued. Also, reach out to your own network and ask for referrals. You would be surprised how many pilots at the majors want to help others. SWA seems to be particularly interested in fractional pilots recently with a few Netjets pilots I know picked up by SWA, but all majors seem to be hiring them.

If you don't like your current situation, change it. Again, the pay and QOL differences at the majors are just TOO BIG TO IGNORE ANY LONGER....

Don't believe me? Here's what one SWA pilot (ex Netjets pilot) just said on the Netjets Latest & Greatest thread:


"I left Netjets with seven years of seniority to go to SWA. In June I will be four years with SWA. Last year I made $175,000 in base pay. The company contributed another $43,000 in retirement between the B-fund and profit sharing. I am holding 50% seniority. I have over 2,000 pilots under me. This year I will receive two raises (One for rolling into 5th year pay, One for contract cola adjustment). I pretty much work the schedule I want.

By the end of the year, my W-2 will approach $200K with the company kicking in about 50K towards retirement.

I have no regrets going to SWA."

pilotj123

[QUOTE=jasmine;2535387]I just passed my 1 year mark at FJ and I thought I would post what I thought about my employment so far and maybe help answer any questions for those thinking about coming to FJ.
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I appreciate all of the info. Ver thorough and informative. I guess I do have a couple of questions.

1. Why has your view towards TMC changed dramatically? In 2015 you said:
"With all the companies hiring I don't know why anyone would consider TMC. There are literally no perks to working here. No vacation. 2 sick days a year. If you try to call in sick, they threaten to send you home and not be brought back so you don't get paid for the month. Mandatory training on days off. Rolling rest. Very sub par mx. "Merit based upgrade with seniority considered." If you do upgrade (currently a year and a half in the right seat for upgrades) you go to year 1 captain's pay. No bereavement policy. Company does not pay into any benefits which are expensive and quite worthless. It's a company that is run by greedy tyrants who go out of their way to screw it's people over and terminates very good pilots who have been serving them for years. Company fires people for very petty things. If you cause them to lose a dime, you're in trouble. Fear permeates the company and drives every little detail. Some crew members are good people and others are just so whipped and afraid, they can be very difficult to work with. You're stuck with the same crew member for 15-20 days. Yes, we did vote in a union but it will be years before any positive changes happen. Pay is low, per Diem is a laugh. You have to watch your paycheck every month because they constantly short you days.
Any company that makes you sign a training contract is suspect. We have guys show up for initial class and bail after a few days of learning how we operate.
Do yourself a favor and go somewhere with something to offer. This place is a dead end life of fear, misery and exhaustion." I am curious what changed so much...

2.Have you really been at Flex for a year? I get confused because in September of 2017 you asked everyone: Does anyone have any current Flexjet interview experience or gouge?
Particularly interested in the sim/technical portion in DFW.
Thanks in advance. If you had already been hired, you would have already gone through this, no?

If I am about to make a career decision, I would appreciate sound advice. I'm not looking for any personal agenda. I want to know what is going to offer the best place for me and my family. If you could address those questions, I'd appreciate it. The timing just doesn't seem right so everything you said makes me curious. If it is all accurate, then great, it's appreciated. I just want to make sure!
-PJ

Airman2105

ATIS, Nice to see someone who is thinking about the situation instead of just posting. Talking about the fuel bonus some of you are talking about......you know some captains keep quiet about it and take it all so how can you say that is part of your income? The climate at Flex/OneSky or Flops or what ever name you have for it has changed and will never be the same as it was from 1999 to 2015.

Airman2105

Take your blinkers of and see what is going on.

MudhammedCJ

Sinking ship. To the many good guys still there, help is waiting to get you out of there. To the guys that do things like steal all the fuel points, good luck.. You're going to need it.

fooled2x

There is a fuel bonus based on gallons/hour. $250/quarter for one burn and 500/quarter for a better burn, so it can add $2000 per year.

Atlantic Bucks, Signature Tailwinds, avpoints, Shell, and Wingpoints should be split between the pilots unless one doesn't participate. The value to me was about $2000 per year and if you make over $600 you can expect a 1099.

fooled2x

FlexJet used to pay a STIP bonus but when 2N Kenn took over, he claimed he knew nothing about it. One of the reasons we now have the Teamsters. Arbitrator Fishgold gave the non-Red Label pilots a bonus of between 1%-4% based on your salary. Red label pilots get a salary plus a bonus for safety, crew availability(rolling duty days), and dispatch availability(carry write-ups), but that is just my view. 2N Kenn describes Red Label as a lifestyle choice.