This is true, the $18,000 will not reduce attrition
The ones leaving are gonna leave
Getting hired, getting an ATP, Type, and jet time
They want to be airline, it doesn't matter, they want to be flying 121
$18,000 in 3 yrs is not going to keep them

Now maybe add in QOL items and the money, maybe a better chance

But at the end of the day, the 3 year wait to then still only get paid
your money that you earned in quarterly payments for the senior guys
is just absolute BS

Im pretty simple. I don't need them to match Delta's pay or give me more paid days off or $18k if I stay 3 years. I just want 4 day rotations available from more domiciles. My biggest hang up here is having to be away for 6-8 days at a time. If Flexjet told me, "you can live at any of the domiciles and work mostly 4 day rotations with some longer trips in there occasionally" I would probably stay for my entire career because they have nearly everything else that I want (home based, pretty good pay, international flying opportunities, safe, modern, positive space commute, minimal "reserve", fast upgrade, good vacation, pilots are taken care of on the road, no 24/7 on call, etc...almost perfect, hence why I am here). Now, I understand this is not efficient for the company. But neither is training up a pilot and having them leave after a month or two, or not having enough pilots to meet the demand. They're going to have to pay up one way or another. Give me a mostly 4/4 schedule from any domicile and I am set. Heck, if they needed me to make up for some of that lost efficiency by having me work an 8 or 9 day rotation once a quarter in exchange for this, that would be fine.

I'd also say they should meet or exceed NetJets domicile list. If someone is comparing Flexjet to NetJets and they live in a domicile only offered by NetJets, guess where they're going? By massively expanding their list of domiciles, not only is Flexjet opening the door to more pilots, they could be siphoning off pilots from their competitor. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Before I get raked over the coals, those are just my own personal preferences. I am not chasing the biggest paycheck, WB flying, easy flying and a flight attendant bringing me coffee, or the biggest direct contribution. Anyone who wants those things WILL bail the moment Delta or whoever calls (I don't expect Flexjet could ever compete in the aforementioned areas), so a 4/4 schedule here probably wouldn't make a difference to most people anyways. But thats what would do it for me.

Get senior enough on the PBS system to hold it and you can do it. I've flown with guys on the Phenom who run a constant 4/4. Or find a DRL team that's not concerned with making it's bonuses and you can set whatever schedule you want. I've flown with multiple people who were on a 5/5 on DRL, so a 4/4 is doable as long as your teammates are okay with it.

I live in a major hub and can’t get anything but 8 day rotations. Buckle up son

Yikes. Buckle up? More like open the door and leap!

lol I’ll give it an honest go. I’m trying to approach this with an open mind. Years ago I did a 15/15 schedule for a few shifts before it started wreaking havoc on my personal life, so that’s where this aversion comes from. But 6-8 is not 15, so maybe it’ll work out!

I’m mostly joking. It’s not a bad place to be but right now we’re understaffed on SIC’s so very few people are getting less than 8 days on PBS. As Texas mentioned, once you get on a DRL team you have a lot more ability to do a 4 or 5 day rotation. You’ll just have to be on a team where it’s doable and accept not hitting different bonus metrics.

Thanks for the information. I'm looking forward to hopefully getting DRL at some point. As you point out, that's where the real schedule flexibility lies, and luckily they pay well enough that bonus metrics and some extra dollars aren't really a primary motivator for me. So perhaps my position on that will compliment a team of 2 others who want to maximize income.