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Old 09-12-2023, 08:36 PM
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When you finish your scheduled flights with duty day time remaining, are you normally put on FBO or hotel standby? If on hotel standby, what is the call-out time?
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Old 09-13-2023, 10:51 AM
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Iím not on line yet but they might hold you at the FBO if they might need a recovery flight. Or, maybe start the day on hotel standby (90 or 60 min.) From what a classmate (current CA upgrade) says, both FBO and hotel standby are fairly rare outside of the busy season.
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Old 09-13-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperDflyr View Post
When you finish your scheduled flights with duty day time remaining, are you normally put on FBO or hotel standby? If on hotel standby, what is the call-out time?
ďNormallyĒ you will get a hotel before you finish your final leg. You will then head to the hotel. Youíll get a duty off time and a AM duty on time later. They usually like to squeeze 12 hours out of ya. So youíll have to wait till 7pm for that beer. We donít do FBO rot. If itís 4pm and landed at your final destination and thereís no hotel, your captain is already calling the company to see whatís up.
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Old 09-13-2023, 01:31 PM
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ďNormallyĒ you will get a hotel before you finish your final leg. You will then head to the hotel. Youíll get a duty off time and a AM duty on time later. They usually like to squeeze 12 hours out of ya. So youíll have to wait till 7pm for that beer. We donít do FBO rot. If itís 4pm and landed at your final destination and thereís no hotel, your captain is already calling the company to see whatís up.
Same. Never sent from the hotel to the FBO unless a flight was scheduled. End of day - maybe call ops to CYA if its before 4 PM local, but nothing crazy.
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Old 09-13-2023, 02:42 PM
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Same. Never sent from the hotel to the FBO unless a flight was scheduled. End of day - maybe call ops to CYA if its before 4 PM local, but nothing crazy.
I have had plenty of 5, 6, 7am duty on at FBO without or with a trip hours later.
Have called and asked to stay at the hotel, and have been told no, we need you at the FBO for coverage
So it does happen in the mornings
I will say it seems to be becoming less the normal than it was before, before it was pretty routine.

End of day, it depends on what time of the day it is and how much duty you have left.
Been done at 1pm with a hotel booked and only 5 hours of duty done, and been told to hang out, call back.
Been done at 5pm and only 5 hours of duty done and told yeah it's good, go ahead to the hotel

The long story short in my opinion, there is no normal
If you get hotel standby in the am or fbo standby in am, if you are allowed to go to the hotel or have to wait a few hours at the fbo is very dependent on the schedule and who is scheduling
Is it extremely busy, is it busy in the region you are in

It also seems some scheduler's are more confident in their decision making and willing to standby their decision to leave or send a crew to the hotel
Other scheduler's seems gun shy and afraid that they will have to answer to way they couldn't recovery a trip fast enough because a crew was at the hotel with a 90 minute call to wheels up

Take away...There is no written rule on what they do or don't do
Today it is one thing, tomorrow it is another. Hotel reaerve, fbo reserve, go to the hotel, no don't go

What you get, what they give you, and what they want you to do changes daily
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Old 09-16-2023, 11:37 AM
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Do you ever get 24 to 36 hour layovers- at hotel free from duty? If so how often?
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Old 09-16-2023, 02:15 PM
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Do you ever get 24 to 36 hour layovers- at hotel free from duty? If so how often?
You only get layovers of that amount of time or longer if you happen the airplane is down for maintenance. Even with the airplane in maintenance, they are not going to leave you off duty. They will still give you duty on times, normally starting in the morning. They will most likely keep you on duty for 10-12 hours, rinse and repeat.

The only time that you will have 24(+) hours OFF is if they have a late night trip the next day. You might get somewhere early or mid afternoon, and they are going to release you. They are doing it, because they know that you are going to be doing a late night, most likely possible red eye flight. They have to commit you to that flight and duty
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Old 09-16-2023, 05:03 PM
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Do you ever get 24 to 36 hour layovers- at hotel free from duty? If so how often?
No never 🤣
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:43 PM
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Do you ever get 24 to 36 hour layovers- at hotel free from duty? If so how often?
Haha. That never happens in the small and mid size fleet (and I have not heard of it happening in the Large Cabin fleet either but not qualified to say for sure)

You will be at or near the hotel room on standby duty, wheels up in 90 minutes or ready to move to the airline terminal for reposition. Wander at your own risk lol.

Still way better than empty FBO standby, which aside from one remark on this thread I have never seen nor heard in the last year or even earlier than that.
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