Becoming a CFI, what do I need to know?
04-23-2017, 07:02 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Agreed.
However you can really overload a pre-solo students with (for them) advanced aerodynamics.
So it's more your teaching style that you need to adapt.
Also much more external references then inside. A CPL student will have their instrument rating so you can practice on a cardinal heading rather then an outside feature like a road or shoreline.
Pull up till the cowling meets the horizon vs pitch change 3 degrees.
With a presolo student I'd initially cover up pitch/bank info to keep their eyes outside.
You get the idea.
However you can really overload a pre-solo students with (for them) advanced aerodynamics.
So it's more your teaching style that you need to adapt.
Also much more external references then inside. A CPL student will have their instrument rating so you can practice on a cardinal heading rather then an outside feature like a road or shoreline.
Pull up till the cowling meets the horizon vs pitch change 3 degrees.
With a presolo student I'd initially cover up pitch/bank info to keep their eyes outside.
You get the idea.
04-23-2017, 09:26 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Everything.
Or know where to find it.
molecules of air do not race faster over the top of a wing in order to meet up with molecules that passed under the wing,
Or know where to find it.
molecules of air do not race faster over the top of a wing in order to meet up with molecules that passed under the wing,
The FAA material is wildly inaccurate about engine management, aerodynamics (especially lift theory) etc. Then you have young know-it-all CFIs who think everything FAA says is 100% true, and they keep spreading this crap.
04-23-2017, 11:56 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
04-24-2017, 12:01 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Not really, that was kind of my point. It's a visual maneuver, not an instrument one. Nothing there would change how I teach it to both students. You set pitch attitudes outside, not inside. Instruments can be cross-checked by both, but both should be taught first to know what the appropriate bank angle and pitch attitudes look like. When I've taught it or done checkrides, I can tell if we are going up or down by looking outside, not by looking at instruments. This is what should be taught at this level. IR and ATP steep turns are instrument reference and can be taught completely that way. There is obviously heavy opinion to how I'd like it taught, it's the results that matter of course. With most things, there are multiple ways of getting to the end result.
Me: Hey goodmorning, today we're going to learn a fun maneuver which will help you control the airplane more accurately.
Presolo student: uh....ok
Me: Hey goodmorning, today we will review steepturns and their aerodynamics and fly them to practical test standards. Did you prepare for this lesson?
Commercial student : uh....ok
04-24-2017, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
The FAA material is wildly inaccurate about engine management, aerodynamics (especially lift theory) etc. Then you have young know-it-all CFIs who think everything FAA says is 100% true, and they keep spreading this crap.
Last edited by JamesNoBrakes; 04-24-2017 at 06:21 AM.
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