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Old 06-14-2017, 08:44 AM
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So how does this jive with FAAO 8700.1

“B. Logging Time. Unless the vehicle is type certificated as an aircraft in a category listed in FAR § 61.5(b)(1) or as an experimental aircraft, or otherwise holds an airworthiness certificate, flight time acquired in such a vehicle may not be used to meet requirements of FAR Part 61 for a certificate or rating or to meet the recency of experience requirements.”

I thought the common understanding was LSA doesn't count for ratings. LSAs are not type certificated or experimental.
If they're not certificated or experimental, what are they? A factory built S-LSA can certainly be used for ratings, see the Cessna 162 (no longer in production).
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My training for PPL will be in the LSA, but once I get to IFR training, it will be in a traditional Cessna.

What do you mean by: "Time in an aircraft which is truly only an LSA does not count for other ratings I think, except that total time in anything which is legal to fly can always be counted."

...so would time built in a SportCruiser for my PPL be able to counted towards other ratings? Is there a definition of what "total time" is? I'm guessing time as a student is counted towards TT even though I'm not PIC, is that correct?
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My training for PPL will be in the LSA, but once I get to IFR training, it will be in a traditional Cessna.

What do you mean by: "Time in an aircraft which is truly only an LSA does not count for other ratings I think, except that total time in anything which is legal to fly can always be counted."

...so would time built in a SportCruiser for my PPL be able to counted towards other ratings? Is there a definition of what "total time" is? I'm guessing time as a student is counted towards TT even though I'm not PIC, is that correct?
In regards to PPL, is the Sport Cruiser certified for night time flight? Can you receive the required night time flight and instrument training for the Private pilot solely in this aircraft?
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I'm not sure to be honest. I know it's not IFR rated. I'll get the info from the school and find out.
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For the instrument rating, you can train in an aircraft that's not certified for IFR flight provided that all training takes place in VFR conditions and the aircraft is properly equipped avionics wise.

The club I belong to has one (maybe two) DA-20s set up for instrument training even though the type isn't certified for IFR as it lacks lightning protection.
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In regards to PPL, is the Sport Cruiser certified for night time flight? Can you receive the required night time flight and instrument training for the Private pilot solely in this aircraft?
The master manual for a sportcruiser has a list of equipment required for night VFR, so assuming it has the equipment, it certainly can be flown at night
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