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03-08-2007, 12:06 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by murl
I have live in small town america all of my life. Really ready for a change.
03-08-2007, 06:03 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
LAFF-
I may be missing something in all that but FAA requires you to take your commercial checkride in complex airplane which means adjustable prop (C150 is fixed). Does he train in a C150 then have you take your checkride in an Arrow? Did you forget to mention some Arrow hours in the deal? You would want as a minimum perhaps 15 hours Arrow time to get your complex signoff plus be at ease doing commercial manuevers in one for your checkride. Building time in a C152 to get to the magic 250 mark is ok but you should use it very little the last 15 hours.
The other thing I would worry about in these packages is I think if you do your initial instrument rating in a multi you can only use it in a multi unless you go back and add single engine instrument privileges later on. I am not dead certain this is true, but if so you would not want to be stuck using your instrument ticket only in a twin plus if you plan to do any single engine commercial flying (part 135) they will require it.
I may be missing something in all that but FAA requires you to take your commercial checkride in complex airplane which means adjustable prop (C150 is fixed). Does he train in a C150 then have you take your checkride in an Arrow? Did you forget to mention some Arrow hours in the deal? You would want as a minimum perhaps 15 hours Arrow time to get your complex signoff plus be at ease doing commercial manuevers in one for your checkride. Building time in a C152 to get to the magic 250 mark is ok but you should use it very little the last 15 hours.
The other thing I would worry about in these packages is I think if you do your initial instrument rating in a multi you can only use it in a multi unless you go back and add single engine instrument privileges later on. I am not dead certain this is true, but if so you would not want to be stuck using your instrument ticket only in a twin plus if you plan to do any single engine commercial flying (part 135) they will require it.
Unless the reg has changed and I don't think it has...you don't need to get an add on to fly IFR in a single if you got it in a twin. I don't know how they handle the Comm SE stuff. I combined the Comm SE training with my initial CFI there since the maneuvers are similar for both checkrides. If someone has a question call Herb and ask. He will tell it like it is.
03-08-2007, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KennyG1700
I was under the same understanding as Cubdriver.. A Cessna 150 wouldnt qualify as a complex aircraft I dont think? 
Also Im a little worried about the location of Benton KS lol... It seems to me like its out in the middle of nowhere.. Is there anything out there to do for fun or is it just strictly flying for 6 months?
Also Im a little worried about the location of Benton KS lol... It seems to me like its out in the middle of nowhere.. Is there anything out there to do for fun or is it just strictly flying for 6 months?
03-16-2007, 08:44 PM
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ATP increases it squeeze on your wallet
ATP has gone down hill. They are now just pumping out average pilots albiet at a premium cost to the student. Save your money and do your training at a FBO. The savings will help you out later. It's a shame that ATP has place a higher priority on making huge profits at the expense of their students. Word has it that they are squeezing every drop of money out of their program to pay for their jet orders.
03-16-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mcartier713
so as far as the price/quality go... how is the school?
08-20-2007, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Slice
At PAS, price is better than average and from my experience the training was top notch...I went to UPT 6 years after training there and now with a major, so I've been around a little. Not claiming to be an expert but if the training was sub-standard, I think I'd have figured it out by now...
08-20-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FluidAir
What about getting CFI, CFII, MEI ratings? Did you go there for that also and how long did it take?
08-20-2007, 12:27 PM
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If you don't have thick skin, then don't go to PAS. Herb is not known for his calm and cool demeanor at times. if you mess up (more importantly, keep messing up) he will let you know. I must give him credit though. He knows his stuff.
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