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Old 08-15-2017, 01:59 AM
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Slightly random question this one but I'm intrigued to see if anyone is able to answer ahead of me locating an appropriate answer...

I'm toward the end of my PPL training and on a flight departing Goodwood heading to Lydd you pass Shoreham. Routing past Shoreham you can cross right through the instrument approach. Is there some standard operating procedure to these defined areas? Should I be avoiding them completely? Flying at a particular altitude? Am I missing something entirely?

I'm not sure how the two worlds meet and avoid (IFR/VFR).
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See and Avoid! Also fly the recommended VFR altitudes (2500, 3500 etc).
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alexmillis View Post
Slightly random question this one but I'm intrigued to see if anyone is able to answer ahead of me locating an appropriate answer...

I'm toward the end of my PPL training and on a flight departing Goodwood heading to Lydd you pass Shoreham. Routing past Shoreham you can cross right through the instrument approach. Is there some standard operating procedure to these defined areas? Should I be avoiding them completely? Flying at a particular altitude? Am I missing something entirely?

I'm not sure how the two worlds meet and avoid (IFR/VFR).
Previous post nailed it - as VFR traffic you are in a see and avoid scenario. The IFR traffic will have positive control traffic advisories from ATC. The IFR traffic will get a call similar to this:

"N123XY you have VFR traffic at your 10 oclock six miles - report traffic in sight."

A smart/saavy VFR aviator will know where the approach corridor lies and altitudes associated with the approach and try to avoid them.

Likewise - an IFR pilot will report their position relative to the approach to ATC but when switching to CTAF they will report their position relative to the field and not instrument fixes.
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Old 08-16-2017, 07:55 PM
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Alex,

Unless my geography is off, Goodwood, Shoreham and Lydd are on the other side of the Atlantic from where most of the posters on this board reside.

You're probably better off asking in the PPL section of Pprune. You'll get answers from pilots more familiar with flying VFR in the U.K.
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And he did, this is a double post from Pprune
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Originally Posted by FlewNavy View Post
Previous post nailed it - as VFR traffic you are in a see and avoid scenario. The IFR traffic will have positive control traffic advisories from ATC. The IFR traffic will get a call similar to this:

"N123XY you have VFR traffic at your 10 oclock six miles - report traffic in sight."

A smart/saavy VFR aviator will know where the approach corridor lies and altitudes associated with the approach and try to avoid them.

Likewise - an IFR pilot will report their position relative to the approach to ATC but when switching to CTAF they will report their position relative to the field and not instrument fixes.
But don't count on the IFR traffic knowing CTAFs for the areas they pass through. In my experience, corporate traffic on instrument approaches to uncontrolled fields often don't give position reports until they're on final. Even when they're in VMC. Not sure if it's due to cluelessness, ineptitude, ego, or something else, but I'm not impressed by your spiffy Falcon or G-IV when you come barreling through the area is if you're the only plane in the sky.
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