Holding question
 

If you're receiving vectors from approach after going missed. They tell you climb direct XXX then hold on the XXX radial off the VOR. If you are on a 330 heading to the station and they want you to hold on the 240 radial aren't you required to do a standard hold with right hand turns?

If they don't say anything about "Hold as published" or "Hold southwest of XXX on the 240 radial, make left hand turns, expect further clearance at....", then you should assume it's standard holding, which is right hand turns.

Holding instructions should include a direction of holding based on one of the eight cardinal directions. I'll assume that the instructions for this holding were "Hold SouthWest of the ABC VOR on the 240 degree radial."

Holding is standard (right-hand turns) unless otherwise specified. (Your example did not specify otherwise.)


Based on the information you've given, you should arrive over the VOR with a heading that is 90 degrees from the holding course. According to the diagram for Holding Entry in the Aeronautical Information Manual and in the Instrument Flying Handbook, you would be in Sector (a), which calls for a Parallel Entry. You would therefore turn LEFT to parallel the holding course outbound. At the appropriate time or distance, you would turn left again to proceed direct to the VOR, or intercept the holding course inbound. Upon reaching the VOR after this entry turn, you would then turn RIGHT for the remaining holding pattern circuits.




Is that what you're asking?






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The short answer according to the info you've posted is yes.

Here is the info a controller should give you if you are issued a noncharted hold quoted directly from the AIM...

Example: "N12345, hold southwest of XXX on the 240 degree radial, expect further clearance at 1845"

According to the AIM you would only use a left turn if instructed to do so by ATC or if you request left turns.

Example: "N12345, hold southwest of XXX on the 240 degree radial, left turns, expect further clearance at 1845"

If the hold is charted and depicts a nonstandard hold, then you would have to comply with what is charted unless ATC advises otherwise (paragraph h. of that same section). In the case that the hold is published, then ATC may omit all holding instructions except the charted holding direction and the statement "as published" (paragraph b.).

Example: "N12345, hold southwest of XXX as published"

If at any point the instructions are unclear you can always ask ATC.

To sum it up...if they don't give you a direction to hold (i.e. Left/Right Turns) assume RIGHT hand turns.

Someone should have just said that...hehehe :)

Yes sir it does. I ask because I'm reading a few gouges about what people got in the sim and one guy apparently was given this, did left turns, and they said good job so I wanted to make sure. I'm guessing something was left out then.

Don't confuse Holding Entry with Holding patterns.

The first time you cross the holding fix, you are ENTERING holding. You turn in the direction that is best suited for the holding pattern, your heading, and winds.


The second time you cross the holding fix you are ESTABLISHED in holding. Your "freebie," if you will, is gone, and all subsequent turns must be made is the direction of holding.




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rgr. Thanks Tony. Should I have any additional ones I'll ask here but so far so good :D

The AIM and the Instrument Flying Handbook are good places to start, too. Do you know how to access them online? You can also download them as .pdf files, for free of course, onto your own computer. With those in the Adobe Reader and the handy search function, you can usually find what you need. :)




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Hey Tony..did this guy do the other homework he was supposed to? stable approaches!!!!!