daddysocks

My college decision has been narrowed down to either UND or ASU. I have already gotten all the information I need about ASU though i'd like to know more about UND. Can any recent graduates or current students tell me more about the program and their opinions of it?

thanks

SkychickenFO

I've really enjoyed my time here so far. Great people and facilities. Professors are fantastic (I've yet to have a poor prof in the avit deptartment), the facilities on campus and at the airport are unmatched honestly. The flying is what you make of it. I went from PPL to CFI in 3 semesters and a summer session so if you're willing to work hard you can get things done fast. Conversely you can slack off and take 2 semesters to finish a flight course. All the resources are there for you so it's all down to the student to determine how fast they move through the courses. It's a full university too so double major in something else (a lot of people, including myself, double major in Avit and business). Grand Forks isn't as bad as a lot of people will say. Find a great group of friends and you'll have plenty to do (sports, parties, student org, university events.....). Also if you stay in ND for 12 months UND gives you instate tuition which is dirt cheap. Little under 130$ per hour for the 172/Archer just fyi flight cost wise. Oh ya and it's cold but it builds character.

Hope this helps and feel free to ask any other questions.

daddysocks

Did you come in with your PPL or did you get it there? I'm wondering if I should get my PPL before I come or just wait until i'm there. How far ahead would I be if I came in with a PPL? Also, do you know if there are any issues transferring your PPL there?

SkychickenFO

Ya I got my PPL in high school. I'd say go for it before you come up here if you're 100% certain you can finish before you come up the summer prior to freshman year to register for courses. Getting some pt 61 under your belt is good experience. When I did it last fall (it is still done this way I'm pretty sure), if you have your PPL when you register at orientation in June/July you'll take the 112 flight course the first half of your first semester which is 6 lessons and a stage check that gets you up to speed on UND procedures and the G1000 aircraft (it's not as easy as many come into it thinking it is). Then you'll take 221 (the first half of your instrument training) the second half of your first semester. No issues transfering in PPL. 112 also has a ground school that reviews PPL stuff for half a semester. You'll essentially be a semester ahead if you come with you PPL and do 112/221. Again, only get your PPL before if your sure you can finish before orientation. If not just take 102 (UNDs PPL course) your first semester.

BeechPilot33

How much to double major in aviation and business and what are the total cost for an out of stater?

SkychickenFO

Tuition Rates | Student Account Services | Admissions | UND: University of North Dakota

See tuition rates above and housing costs and meal plan costs are also available on the website. There is no extra cost to double major apart from the fact that you need to complete more credits in order to satisfy degree requirements for both majors. There is also a minimum credit cost where you don't extra for any credits you take over 12 (I'm pretty sure it's 12 but don't quote me on that.)

daddysocks

What are your thoughts on the cadet programs through UND? Does UND make it easy to get a job with the regionals?

SkychickenFO

I mean in this environment it's pretty easy to get a job with the regionals regardless but there are quite a few options for cadet programs up here. Envoy/PSA and Skywest seem to be the most popular. I wont get into the value (or lack thereof) of cadet programs as there are plenty of discussions on here about that already, but if it's something you want to do there are certainly good opportunities for that here. We have three career fairs per year and usually a couple airlines a month come up and do presentations and interviews both for cadet programs and general employment. Certainly no shortage of connections with many of the pilots/admin people being UND grads themselves (especially Endeavor and Skywest).

daddysocks

Thanks for all your feedback! I'm looking more towards UND at this point instead of ASU.

SkychickenFO

No problem. Good luck making your decision, it's a great time to be getting into the industry.