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Old 04-17-2018, 11:28 AM
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A little background first: I'm currently a student pilot and an upper level junior at a non-aviation accredited college going for my bachelors degree. I'm planning on finishing up and getting my PPL this coming summer and then to start working on my Instrument rating the following two semesters. After finishing college I'm considering going to ATP for their fast track program. I'm wondering if you can go to ATP already having an Instrument rating and if that adjust the costs. I didn't see anything on their website about it.
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Of course make sure that you speak with ATP directly, however I instructed for ATP and I don't believe that the cost savings are significant. From memory I believe that it would be better to finish your private and start instrument from scratch with them. Curious of what location that you were planning on attending?
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When I was looking for schools around my area, I called and spoke with a rep. They told me its either from Zero to finish or PPL with at least "80 hours". I asked if they do a case by case and the response was: "We would evaluate your knowledge and assess whether you'd be a right fit. No exceptions"

This was my experience, yours may vary.
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I'm going to ATP with my PPL and 115 hours. So I'll be starting their Airline Career Pilot program at the instrument. ATP for me, the 6 months to finish the program then roughly a year after that be at the 1500 ATP minimums was a no-brainer. Along with airline tuition reimbursement and partnerships with many regionals. That and having talked to some pilots that had gone through the program. I decided to attend the Mesa, AZ location starting in June.

There is a reason they have 42 flight training centers, with very high placement rates. I think for those who don't want to spend A LOT of time in the collegiate 141 realms or try to find personal loans to cover an FBO style school. Then ATP having partnerships to get financing for people like me, and allow minimal downtime while training to obtain all the ratings necessary.

From what I was told in reference with ATP, because how they train to their standardizations they would have you go through their instrument again, and the cost would be the same whether you had the ticket or not. You wouldn't have to take the checkride. I for one think that's a waste. If you plan on attending a fast track program out of college. I'd say just get your PPL, then make sure you have your 80hrs total time with 50 PIC cross country. This is essentially what I did until I can start with ATP.

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Old 04-19-2018, 04:32 AM
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I'm going to ATP with my PPL and 115 hours. So I'll be starting their Airline Career Pilot program at the instrument. ATP for me, the 6 months to finish the program then roughly a year after that be at the 1500 ATP minimums was a no-brainer. Along with airline tuition reimbursement and partnerships with many regionals. That and having talked to some pilots that had gone through the program. I decided to attend the Mesa, AZ location starting in June.

There is a reason they have 42 flight training centers, with very high placement rates. I think for those who don't want to spend A LOT of time in the collegiate 141 realms or try to find personal loans to cover an FBO style school. Then ATP having partnerships to get financing for people like me, and allow minimal downtime while training to obtain all the ratings necessary.

From what I was told in reference with ATP, because how they train to their standardizations they would have you go through their instrument again, and the cost would be the same whether you had the ticket or not. You wouldn't have to take the checkride. I for one think that's a waste. If you plan on attending a fast track program out of college. I'd say just get your PPL, then make sure you have your 80hrs total time with 50 PIC cross country. This is essentially what I did until I can start with ATP.

Just my .02
^^^ I agree. However ATP isn't for everyone. It's a very defined program that does one thing very well. It gets you your ratings fast and helps build time to get to the airlines! A quick search of ATP and you can find criticism that is likely valid, however it was a good choice for me and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
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