DarthDecker

Hello all, I’m moving back to Washington State after getting out of the military. I’m almost done with my PPL and I’ve been shopping around western Washington for flight schools covered by the VA I found one called snohomish flying service which is partnered with liberty university. I’d get a bachelors degree along with my flight training and the GI bill apparently covers it. Is this a good option? Does anyone on here have any insight on this program and if I can get the flight portion of it done in a decent amount of time?

misterpretzel

Liberty is not a university you want to get a degree from. Snohomish flying service is a great outfit though.

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bklynbacon

Explain this reasoning...I wanna hear this.

I have a B.A. from another college, but I'm doing Liberty to pay for my flight training with financial aid. You can get it done in a reasonable time, but you gotta kinda work the system. I carried over about 111 credits from my last degree, so all I'm really taking are the flight courses and electives here and there. For being a part-time student pilot, I'm moving along. I have about 54 hours, finishing up solo time building, and doing stage check before checkride over the next 2-3 weeks. I started Private Pilot 1 on 03/22.

misterpretzel

Over 90% acceptance, incredibly conservative/Christian, zero prestige, huge student body. The school is not respected among the community (do a quick Google search and you'll see what I mean).

Basically, going to liberty will elicit similar response/reactions as going to a place like university of Phoenix, even though they are very different schools. People don't see either as a truly legitimate higher education experience.

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bklynbacon

I get all that and they are a bit conservative, which I don’t mind..but let’s be real. A degree is a degree these days. It doesn’t matter where it’s from, unless it’s an Ivy League school/military college or similar. And that’s more about the strength of its alumni network. Who cares. Just don’t go to ITT haha.

Macchi30

Utah Valley State College has an Aviation degree. Less requirements than Liberty

bklynbacon

Yes, and they are very friendly. The only thing Liberty has going for it, is their FTA program and the R-ATP. No one else is doing that, and that's why Liberty can charge what they charge.

JohnBurke

Over 90% acceptance, meaning they accept most who apply? You think this is a bad thing?

Prestige? Really???

Not respected among what community?

Your nose is so high in the air that it's snowing on your brain.

Elicit a response from whom?

The school is regionally accredited. It grants a degree. Done.

Liberty is Christian. Get over it. Grand Canyon University is too, and it's well recognized. Brigham Young University is, as well, and it's well recognized, too.

If you want to boast prestige, knock rings with the boys over scotch while comparing fraternities and other juvenile bull, then Liberty may not be your huckleberry. Again, big deal.

For the burgeoning airline pilot (et al), the degree is a place holder and little else, and ivy league vs. Liberty isn't going to boost you to the top of the class. You might be paying off your loans a lot longer, though.

I wouldn't go to Liberty, personally. For those who choose to do so, they're getting an accredited degree. The online school and university have open enrollment, like many schools, which is not a big deal at all. If it's important to you to be able to say you went to a school where only the elite got in, so be it. For many, it just doesn't matter, and frankly if you did attend a school with selective enrollment, it isn't that impressive.

We're in the adult world. Working. School is over. Time to put the big boy pants on and stop comparing the alma mater. A better question to ask, and one certainly on the mind of an employer, is what have you done lately?

USAFFlightEng

I'm an Air Force vet and an active reservist using the GI bill for flight training through a Liberty University flight affiliate in California and I've had mostly a positive experience with the school and with the flight affiliate. The downside is my housing allowance is for Lynchburg, VA which is much lower than the cost of living in CA. I'm not an overly religious person and I manage to get through the Christian aspect of Liberty just fine. If you can handle that Liberty is a great school, free books reduced military tuition and also a yellow ribbon school which is a huge advantage when doing flight training. DM me if you have any questions.

peaches

Over 90% acceptance rate? Show me where you got that number because I can show you that it’s 21.6% Via a simple internet search and also from the people who send the acceptance letters since I know many people who work in admissions. Also, many people see it as one of the greatest education experiences, especially from a residential stand point. Also Liberty was named most outstanding flight school in the country 2018 for the second year in a row and if you count the Flight Training Affiliates has more students than ERAU There is a reason companies and airlines specifically seek out Liberty students.