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Old 07-18-2018, 06:08 AM
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I'm getting closer to starting multi training and am looking for recommendations on reading material prior to beginning flight training with an instructor. I've already read Chapter 12 of the Airplane Flying Handbook (Transition to Multiengine Airplanes). The books I'm considering are:

Multi-Engine Flying by Paul Craig https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/00...KIKX0DER&psc=1

The Pilot's Manual: Multi-Engine Flying: All the aeronautical knowledge required to earn a multi-engine rating on your pilot certificate (The Pilot's Manual Series) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/16...KIKX0DER&psc=1

The Complete Multi-Engine Pilot (The Complete Pilot Series) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/15...KIKX0DER&psc=1

Transition To Twins: Your First Multi-Engine Rating (ASA Training Manuals) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/15...KIKX0DER&psc=1

Any advice or recommendations are appreciated. Thanks
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I found that sticking to chapter 12 of the AFH, as well as The Complete Multi-Engine Pilot worked well for my students. I told them to read and re-read chapter 12, as well as most of the Complete Multi-Engine Pilot. There's certainly a lot of multi-engine books but with most multi courses, they go quick and you don't really have time to hit all the books you want. You may find that some stuff doesn't make much sense now, but reading it prior to starting training might create some light-bulbs once you start. Good luck! Multi-engine flying is fun.
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In addition to profiles for the airplane you'll be using, all you need to know is:

Vspeeds applicable to ME aircraft, what they mean, what they're used for.

How ME props feather (varies depending on the airplane).

Aerodynamic factors unique to OEI flight. You'll have to discuss these on the oral exam.

Reading a book might help elaborate on these things, but that's really the gist of it.


Also... this is not commonly taught, but if I were to experience a loss of control due to engine failure and Vmc, I would idle both levers and revert to ASEL off field landing technique. As opposed to letting the thing roll over and auger in vertically. They teach folks to apply/verify max power, but that's suicide if you're not above Vmc or cannot stay above Vmc.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
In addition to profiles for the airplane you'll be using, all you need to know is:

Vspeeds applicable to ME aircraft, what they mean, what they're used for.

How ME props feather (varies depending on the airplane).

Aerodynamic factors unique to OEI flight. You'll have to discuss these on the oral exam.

Reading a book might help elaborate on these things, but that's really the gist of it.


Also... this is not commonly taught, but if I were to experience a loss of control due to engine failure and Vmc, I would idle both levers and revert to ASEL off field landing technique. As opposed to letting the thing roll over and auger in vertically. They teach folks to apply/verify max power, but that's suicide if you're not above Vmc or cannot stay above Vmc.
This right here. Don't overcomplicate it. It's a rating you can get done in 2-3 days including the required groundwork.

Know the factors affecting engine criticality (PAST) and the Vmc criteria (most critical engine, aft CG, unfavorable weight etc, the ones in the old 23.149). Then impress your DPE by telling him 23.149 is actually not in FAR/AIM any more. And that's the oral part done for the general subjects. Rest is plane specific systems. Don't need a book for that.

Not sure what you mean by the last sentence? The Vmc demo recovery is power idle on the good engine, push the nose down to get above Vmc, and then recover.
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Not sure what you mean by the last sentence? The Vmc demo recovery is power idle on the good engine, push the nose down to get above Vmc, and then recover.
Oops, for clarity I was NOT talking about training demos or the checkride in that last part.

I was talking about a real-world OEI situation where you start to lose yaw/roll control... in that case the problem is the good engine, so idle it. Better to glide than roll out of control. Maybe you'll have the opportunity to add power back in once you get some airspeed but if not, better to contact the ground under control. That's just what I would do (yes I have plenty of MEI experience).
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Also... this is not commonly taught, but if I were to experience a loss of control due to engine failure and Vmc, I would idle both levers and revert to ASEL off field landing technique. As opposed to letting the thing roll over and auger in vertically. They teach folks to apply/verify max power, but that's suicide if you're not above Vmc or cannot stay above Vmc.
Great advice. I used to ask my students what they would do with an engine failure after takeoff and the gear up. They'd repeat the procedures listed including maximizing power, reducing drag, etc. and flying her around the pattern. But when you consider the real world aspects, that always isn't the best (or correct) answer. Especially if you're departing an airport and you're at or above your single engine service ceiling due to elevation and such.
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FAA publication “Flying Light Twins Safely”
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Excellent advice here. Thanks to all!
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Not sure what you’re doing your training in but if it’s a Seminole this isn’t a terrible intro and guide to the maneuvers. No I did not go to ATP, this was just one of the docs I found when I was a fresh MEI.

https://atpflightschool.com/students...ainingSupp.pdf
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
In addition to profiles for the airplane you'll be using, all you need to know is:

Vspeeds applicable to ME aircraft, what they mean, what they're used for.

How ME props feather (varies depending on the airplane).

Aerodynamic factors unique to OEI flight. You'll have to discuss these on the oral exam.

Reading a book might help elaborate on these things, but that's really the gist of it.


Also... this is not commonly taught, but if I were to experience a loss of control due to engine failure and Vmc, I would idle both levers and revert to ASEL off field landing technique. As opposed to letting the thing roll over and auger in vertically. They teach folks to apply/verify max power, but that's suicide if you're not above Vmc or cannot stay above Vmc.
All time great example was the Borg-Warner Howard 500 at Meigs Field- Chicago lost an engine at T.O. slow rolled into Lake Michigan.
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