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PROFILECLIMB 07-24-2018 08:13 AM

X plane as a training aid.
 
How many here use X plane 11 as a training aid? I find the realism spot on, yeah I've cooked a few engines in the learning process.

JohnBurke 07-24-2018 09:01 AM

Computer game.

Take what you learn in the airplane and transfer it to the game. Not the other way around.

rickair7777 07-24-2018 09:02 AM

Only for instrument procedures. And only AFTER you have enough training to use the correct procedures. As a CFI I had a student who learned all kinds of bad habits from MS Flight Sim, it was hard to break him of those...

It's not going to do much for stick-and-rudder maneuvers, missing tactile feel, peripheral vision, etc.

SonicBoom 07-24-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by PROFILECLIMB (Post 2641486)
How many here use X plane 11 as a training aid? I find the realism spot on, yeah I've cooked a few engines in the learning process.

Use it only as Rickair7777 said, for IFR training and after you've had enough training with a real CFII so you stay clear of building bad habits. When using it, make sure you follow the same workflow you'd use on a real airplane and I highly recommend Pilot Edge.

deftone 07-24-2018 01:26 PM

I tried using it for my Instrument rating, but even at that it was really difficult for me to relate to the actual flying. Lots of people seemed to find it useful though.

SonicBoom 07-26-2018 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by deftone (Post 2641723)
I tried using it for my Instrument rating, but even at that it was really difficult for me to relate to the actual flying. Lots of people seemed to find it useful though.

As I live in what it seems to be the worst region of the country to do flight training (Northern NJ) due to weather, constant TFRs (Thanks Trump), etc. X-Plane has proven to help me a lot between my flight lessons.

You just have to be very disciplined not to cut corners, do everything as you would exactly on a plane. I invested on a Yoke, Rudder Pedals and Throttle and I don't regret it. I just wish I had a better machine, but it does the what it needs to.

Pilsung 07-26-2018 01:13 PM

I have found Xplane 11 to be a "fun computer game" when used for Private & VFR stuff, but have found that it has paid for itself and is an extremely useful tool when used for instrument stuff- things like practice-shooting more complicated or unfamiliar approaches before you spend $ and get in the real plane, cranking up the turbulence and minimum weather conditions for maintaining instrument scan proficiency in difficult conditions, transitioning from shooting approaches in steam to G1000 et al... think of it as an "instrument rating version of the E6B"... make sure to have a good graphics card lots of RAM and get the yoke, pedals & throttle quadrant. Also, Foreflight on the iPad syncs seamlessly with Xplane making it feel more like a real cockpit...

Delta Echo 08-08-2018 05:57 AM

My lil brother completely learnt from flight simulator 2004 :D
I think is very useful to learn all the instruments in the cockpit so dont get confused
but for Ir why not to use Flygo Pilot Trainer IFR Pack app for iPhone, iPad | FlyGo-Aviation Ltd. or something which is real??? Xplane for me is just a game
:D



Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2641526)
Only for instrument procedures. And only AFTER you have enough training to use the correct procedures. As a CFI I had a student who learned all kinds of bad habits from MS Flight Sim, it was hard to break him of those...

It's not going to do much for stick-and-rudder maneuvers, missing tactile feel, peripheral vision, etc.


SonicBoom 08-08-2018 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Delta Echo (Post 2651119)
My lil brother completely learnt from flight simulator 2004 :D
I think is very useful to learn all the instruments in the cockpit so dont get confused
but for Ir why not to use Flygo Pilot Trainer IFR Pack app for iPhone, iPad | FlyGo-Aviation Ltd. or something which is real??? Xplane for me is just a game
:D

If X-Plane for you is just a game then you do not know how to use it properly. Some of us do not have all that money to use something 'real' for everything.

X-Plane literally saved me hundreds of dollars, if not thousands just by allowing me to shoot practice approaches, radial trackings, holds, by using it with Pilot Edge it helped my radio communication tremendously, among other things.

If used properly it is an amazing tool to be used. If you use it as a game then well, it's nothing more than a game. :)

JohnBurke 08-08-2018 07:59 AM

No, it's a game.

It is not a simulator.


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